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@javi741
I don't think the price difference is big considering one is getting future games and the other is getting limited releases.. Don't understand how this forum is so sure it's passing PS2. Switch sales will come to a crawl at this point. It's doubtful Nintendo will want Switch on the market much longer if it's going to canabalize Switch 2 sales.



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I think there are some oncoming positive and negative factors for Switch 1 getting to 160m. One of those is perhaps a possible deep American recession. I do think it will make it, but I think the long term outlook for the handheld space, and non-handheld for that matter, will be interesting. A console should have been able to beat 160m before now. PS2 was ages ago. But the competition landscape has perhaps never been more crowded. Console games being released on PC. PC/Steam handhelds have exploded onto the market.

The only thing that remains as far as a bedrock for Nintendo being the leader in terms of console sales is still it's first party exclusivity. I can only think that a rumored SONY or MS handheld can maybe dent that. I have doubts either of those would gain any kind of massive traction against Nintendo.



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Sagemode87 said:

@javi741
I don't think the price difference is big considering one is getting future games and the other is getting limited releases.. Don't understand how this forum is so sure it's passing PS2. Switch sales will come to a crawl at this point. It's doubtful Nintendo will want Switch on the market much longer if it's going to canabalize Switch 2 sales.

I don’t see why Switch sales would come to a crawl, 3DS shipped about 10 million units after Switch released. Switch still has Metroid, Pokemon, Tomodachi & Rhythm Heaven (possibly more unannounced) so it will still keep trucking along. Obviously sales will slow but I don’t think it’s ready to die yet.



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The Switch 2 pricing being on the high side does help the Switch's chances. With it looking like it's likely gonna be close and sales already starting to decline a lot in the past few weeks it could very well end up needing that help to get there.



i am now extremely confident in saying that NSW1 will surpass PS2. With the price of hardware and software on NSW2 being so much higher than NSW1, I do not see the legs of NSW1 giving in for another few years.



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firebush03 said:

i am now extremely confident in saying that NSW1 will surpass PS2. With the price of hardware and software on NSW2 being so much higher than NSW1, I do not see the legs of NSW1 giving in for another few years.

It could take until 2028 for Switch to sell 1 million units or less in a year, so I agree. 

While Switch has reached a far higher saturation point than PS2 had in 2006, there is a real chance if Switch 2 sales are below expectations that Nintendo could still make enough Switch units and finish in the high 160s to low 170s. 

Considering Switch 2 isn't likely to head to a PS3 level disaster in the early years, I think 180 million units is still off the table for Switch. 



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 40 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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Wman1996 said:
firebush03 said:

i am now extremely confident in saying that NSW1 will surpass PS2. With the price of hardware and software on NSW2 being so much higher than NSW1, I do not see the legs of NSW1 giving in for another few years.

It could take until 2028 for Switch to sell 1 million units or less in a year, so I agree. 

While Switch has reached a far higher saturation point than PS2 had in 2006, there is a real chance if Switch 2 sales are below expectations that Nintendo could still make enough Switch units and finish in the high 160s to low 170s. 

Considering Switch 2 isn't likely to head to a PS3 level disaster in the early years, I think 180 million units is still off the table for Switch. 

Exactly that. 

Just in case of a ns2 rough start.

I can't imagine Nintendo pulling the plug, it's the only back up (and well all these profits they made on NS). 

I think the price of the games is by far bigger issue than the device price.

Europe, which s the only place where ns trailing behind Ds considerably except France(mostly owing to the added value tax) , can be a key to NS even exceeding 170m.

Also Nintendo switch lite, they can push it in developing markets 

Let's keep in mind that ps2 sold the most in such markets in its final years, notably Brazzzzzzil.

Let's see their 2025/2026 sales forecast, the most exciting ever imo... It will tell us everything. 



Interesting. At one side, we see people still not sure about the Switch passing the 160M and on the other side, some people talk about 170M units for the Switch



tak13 said:
Wman1996 said:

It could take until 2028 for Switch to sell 1 million units or less in a year, so I agree. 

While Switch has reached a far higher saturation point than PS2 had in 2006, there is a real chance if Switch 2 sales are below expectations that Nintendo could still make enough Switch units and finish in the high 160s to low 170s. 

Considering Switch 2 isn't likely to head to a PS3 level disaster in the early years, I think 180 million units is still off the table for Switch. 

Exactly that. 

Just in case of a ns2 rough start.

I can't imagine Nintendo pulling the plug, it's the only back up (and well all these profits they made on NS). 

I think the price of the games is by far bigger issue than the device price.

Europe, which s the only place where ns trailing behind Ds considerably except France(mostly owing to the added value tax) , can be a key to NS even exceeding 170m.

Also Nintendo switch lite, they can push it in developing markets 

Let's keep in mind that ps2 sold the most in such markets in its final years, notably Brazzzzzzil.

Let's see their 2025/2026 sales forecast, the most exciting ever imo... It will tell us everything. 

You are smoking crack if you think the Switch will sell 170 million units. Regardless of the unimpressive price for the Switch 2, that doesn't mean it will translate to people suddenly getting a Switch 1, which will still probably still won't geta price drop and thus won't be seen as cheap. IT's still a significant amount of money, especially given todays wages still not caught up with inflation. 

The Switch will likely just about crack 160 million+ crawling over hat finish line. The DS sales fell massively when the 3DS was released, regardless of the 3DS being overpriced the DS was only $150 and sale still dropped from 19 million in 2010 to 6.5 million in 2011. Though Nintendo's late game releases are stronger on the Switch, we alreayd know the big tentpoles this year, Metroid Prime and Pokemon Legends Z-A are on both systems.

The Switch currently just doesn't such attractive pricing today to suggest it'll buck a 60% plus drop in sales right now or be cheap enough to be attractive in non-western developing markets yet like the PS2 was. And we have no idea if Nintendo will aggressively chase that potential field like Sony did.



zorg1000 said:
Sagemode87 said:

@javi741
I don't think the price difference is big considering one is getting future games and the other is getting limited releases.. Don't understand how this forum is so sure it's passing PS2. Switch sales will come to a crawl at this point. It's doubtful Nintendo will want Switch on the market much longer if it's going to canabalize Switch 2 sales.

I don’t see why Switch sales would come to a crawl, 3DS shipped about 10 million units after Switch released. Switch still has Metroid, Pokemon, Tomodachi & Rhythm Heaven (possibly more unannounced) so it will still keep trucking along. Obviously sales will slow but I don’t think it’s ready to die yet.

It is entirely up to Nintendo, like Sony with the PS4.

If they want to stop production to help out the Switch 2, they will. On the other hand, if they want the Switch to continue selling for years, they could do that as well.

Wii U was discontinued before the Switch even came out while the 3DS continued a long life. It could be somewhere in the middle of course too. Who knows what Nintendo decides?