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Kristof81 said:

Haha, that’s good.





the-pi-guy said:
eva01beserk said:

They still overpaid. Specially since it sounds like bungie have zero comitment to Sony. 

Sony still gets their revenue, technology, expertise. 

May have overpaid, but the investment makes sense. 

DonFerrari said:

Same here. I would rather they put those billions in opening dozen studios.

The issue is, a lot of their studios are having trouble hiring enough people. 

No it dosent. When you buy out someone they should have full comitment to the new owner. I understand not removing destiny from competition but to say that they are still fully indepedent and future games still go where ever they want? No thats a partnership and you should pay zero for that as both partys benefit from a partnership. 



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It really shows just how shocking the other recent acquisition was that this barely got a reaction out of me despite being noteworthy still.



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eva01beserk said:
the-pi-guy said:

Sony still gets their revenue, technology, expertise. 

May have overpaid, but the investment makes sense. 

DonFerrari said:

Same here. I would rather they put those billions in opening dozen studios.

The issue is, a lot of their studios are having trouble hiring enough people. 

No it dosent.  I understand not removing destiny from competition but to say that they are still fully indepedent and future games still go where ever they want? No thats a partnership and you should pay zero for that as both partys benefit from a partnership. 

> I understand not removing destiny from competition but to say that they are still fully indepedent and future games still go where ever they want?

Exclusivity is a weird bar for not being committed. Destiny is successful in large part because the game is available on so many platforms. There's a reason why Microsoft released Minecraft on PSVR/other PlayStation and Nintendo platforms long after they acquired Mojang. 

Sony is also working on trying to reach a broader audience. They just released God of War on PC.  

Paying 0, doesn't make any sense. What Bungie gets out of this deal is money, financial stability, while Sony gets Bungie's expertise, talent, revenue and profits. 



DonFerrari said:
800_LilTwin said:

So now we got certain people want to convince you Bungie games will remain multiplatform when just a a few days ago they so quickly to dismiss Phil's claim of "we want to keep call of duty on playstation".....how quickly does the narrative change depending on who the company is making the big purchase.

on plus side Sony now has a "live service" cash cow game on top of the big profits from everything on PS plus and playstation as whole, should help them financially with bigger and more acquisition going forward.

Phil says he wants to keep. Playstation and Bungie ensured all Bungie games will stay multiplatform. Huge difference.

Phil can latter say that despise his best efforts it wasn't possible to keep in on Playstation and even fault Sony with any silly argument like they didn't allow GP or XBL on playstation and that was needed to bring the game they envision.

Flip-flopping is definitely not unexpected at all.



the-pi-guy said:
eva01beserk said:

No it dosent.  I understand not removing destiny from competition but to say that they are still fully indepedent and future games still go where ever they want? No thats a partnership and you should pay zero for that as both partys benefit from a partnership. 

> I understand not removing destiny from competition but to say that they are still fully indepedent and future games still go where ever they want?

Exclusivity is a weird bar for not being committed. Destiny is successful in large part because the game is available on so many platforms. There's a reason why Microsoft released Minecraft on PSVR/other PlayStation and Nintendo platforms long after they acquired Mojang. 

Sony is also working on trying to reach a broader audience. They just released God of War on PC.  

Paying 0, doesn't make any sense. What Bungie gets out of this deal is money, financial stability, while Sony gets Bungie's expertise, talent, revenue and profits. 

Wich is why I said I understood why they are not removing destiny from other platforms. Like Minecraft and Skyrim and every other acquisition the previous games. My point was future games. And I understand as well games near release as developement was without the new buyers money. But they said all future games. That's just insane. Or they could just be pulling a classic Phil move and backtrack later on. 

Yea and god of war and uncharted and horizon and all other games released on pc launched years first on PlayStation so they reached a broader audience while still having exclusivity.

You just descrived a partnership again not a buy out. 



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eva01beserk said:

Wich is why I said I understood why they are not removing destiny from other platforms. Like Minecraft and Skyrim and every other acquisition the previous games. My point was future games. And I understand as well games near release as developement was without the new buyers money. But they said all future games. That's just insane. Or they could just be pulling a classic Phil move and backtrack later on. 

Yea and god of war and uncharted and horizon and all other games released on pc launched years first on PlayStation so they reached a broader audience while still having exclusivity.

You just descrived a partnership again not a buy out. 

> they said all future games. 

Their future games are going to be just like Destiny. As it stands and for the foreseeable future Bungie is making those kinds of live service games that pretty much need to be on everything.

You just descrived a partnership again not a buy out. 

There's not always much of a difference.



the-pi-guy said:
eva01beserk said:

No it dosent.  I understand not removing destiny from competition but to say that they are still fully indepedent and future games still go where ever they want? No thats a partnership and you should pay zero for that as both partys benefit from a partnership. 

> I understand not removing destiny from competition but to say that they are still fully indepedent and future games still go where ever they want?

Exclusivity is a weird bar for not being committed. Destiny is successful in large part because the game is available on so many platforms. There's a reason why Microsoft released Minecraft on PSVR/other PlayStation and Nintendo platforms long after they acquired Mojang. 

Sony is also working on trying to reach a broader audience. They just released God of War on PC.  

Paying 0, doesn't make any sense. What Bungie gets out of this deal is money, financial stability, while Sony gets Bungie's expertise, talent, revenue and profits. 

SNY is likely getting the better part of the deal here. Bungie will gain as well, but not quite as much as PS.

Being able to leverage Bungies tech and know how is worth a lot, especially if that leads to new PS studios. Being able to grow Bungie beyond just Destiny will be worth a lot. Being able to profit greatly from everything Bungie will be worth a lot.

Imagine if SNY and Bungie were to target some key franchises MS now owns and wants to make exclusive. Assuming they can make something worthy, would a player rather play the game that's exclusive to XB, or the similar type game that's cross platform by Bungie/SNY?

Didn't MS just spend the last like, 4-6 years crying about how exclusives are a horrible terrible thing and cross platform cross play was the right way forward and the future? So why is MS making so much exclusive while PS will now be making cross platform?

If SNY plays it's cards right, a bunch of these acquisitions by MS won't be worth anywhere near what they are now in the future. Which is ironic, considering that's the whole point of exclusives. To hold and become more valuable to grow your userbase.

Bungie is worth a good chunk of money period, but whether the deal is worthy or not will depend on future decisions and there execution.