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EricHiggin on 20 January 2022

Well the biggest talking point about this acquisition overall seems to be COD and whether or not it'll end up exclusive.

Whether it does or not, if you're EA and Dice right now, with the Battlefield franchise, you'd best be looking to PS for a partnership going forward. If you're PS, you'd best be taking advantage of that, or more.

Now assuming there wouldn't be a buyout or merger between EA and SNY, who knows, is there any chance PS could simply acquire Dice and Battlefield? Would EA let them go?

The Battlefield franchise has not been stellar over the last few games, especially the most recent, so now could be a good time for a business deal. PS could really use something to counter COD, and if they had Dice in house, they could probably help stabilize and grow Battlefield to much better compete with COD.

This way SNY doesn't necessarily need all of EA at $40 billion+, though it's not like that would hurt.

(Owning EA though, would allow SNY to potentially force MS to keep more franchises coming to the PS platform, otherwise everything becomes exclusive.)



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ironmanDX on 20 January 2022
EricHiggin said:
ironmanDX said:

The obvious solution?

Gamepass on Playstation.

What's the point of owning an Xbox then. An extra 1.something tflop?

It's literally staring me in the face, it's that obvious.

So then MS can stop making hardware, while continuing to consolidate the software market into GP?

Leave SNY with only it's first party and potentially few hold out partnerships, while having to produce the hardware?

I'm pretty sure SNY ain't that dumb.

That's as bad a take as the Sony should sell thread. 

Such little faith in Sony 1st party games. 

You don't think Sony would get a cut of all those subs? All those micro transactions? While also selling their games on top. 

They'd almost consolidate the... For the lack of a better word... "hardcore" console gamers on their system. 

Who could oppose them after that? No one. 



EricHiggin on 20 January 2022
ironmanDX said:
EricHiggin said:

So then MS can stop making hardware, while continuing to consolidate the software market into GP?

Leave SNY with only it's first party and potentially few hold out partnerships, while having to produce the hardware?

I'm pretty sure SNY ain't that dumb.

That's as bad a take as the Sony should sell thread. 

Such little faith in Sony 1st party games. 

You don't think Sony would get a cut of all those subs? All those micro transactions? While also selling their games on top. 

They'd almost consolidate the... For the lack of a better word... "hardcore" console gamers on their system. 

Who could oppose them after that? No one. 

Only if SNY was totally backed into a corner, which they certainly aren't yet.

The problem is profits, and XB wins that game big time if GP ends up on PS consoles.

If that wasn't the case, SNY would've allowed it already. Like cross play.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

ironmanDX on 20 January 2022
EricHiggin said:
ironmanDX said:

That's as bad a take as the Sony should sell thread. 

Such little faith in Sony 1st party games. 

You don't think Sony would get a cut of all those subs? All those micro transactions? While also selling their games on top. 

They'd almost consolidate the... For the lack of a better word... "hardcore" console gamers on their system. 

Who could oppose them after that? No one. 

Only if SNY was totally backed into a corner, which they certainly aren't yet.

The problem is profits, and XB wins that game big time if GP ends up on PS consoles.

If that wasn't the case, SNY would've allowed it already. Like cross play.

That would come. Sony are already making money with every PS5 disc edition sold.

Xbox hardware would be squeezed out and made redundant. Sony would control the store.



EricHiggin on 20 January 2022
ironmanDX said:
EricHiggin said:

Only if SNY was totally backed into a corner, which they certainly aren't yet.

The problem is profits, and XB wins that game big time if GP ends up on PS consoles.

If that wasn't the case, SNY would've allowed it already. Like cross play.

That would come. Sony are already making money with every PS5 disc edition sold.

Xbox hardware would be squeezed out and made redundant. Sony would control the store.

So if making money on hardware is so great, then why would MS disregard hardware?

MS hates the 'most' profitable portions of gaming? MS hates control?

The only GP on PS5 strategy that makes any sense right now for SNY, though sleezy, would be to agree before MS makes any more acquisitions, which includes having MS stop selling XB hardware anymore. Then do what some of the tech companies have done to cripple their competitors and say, 'XB is bad because reasons, so we're kicking/banning GP off PS5 entirely'.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

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ironmanDX on 20 January 2022
EricHiggin said:
ironmanDX said:

That would come. Sony are already making money with every PS5 disc edition sold.

Xbox hardware would be squeezed out and made redundant. Sony would control the store.

So if making money on hardware is so great, then why would MS disregard hardware?

MS hates the 'most' profitable portions of gaming? MS hates control?

The only GP on PS5 strategy that makes any sense right now for SNY, though sleezy, would be to agree before MS makes any more acquisitions, which includes having MS stop selling XB hardware anymore. Then do what some of the tech companies have done to cripple their competitors and say, 'XB is bad because reasons, so we're kicking/banning GP off PS5 entirely'.

Lol wut. 

I didn't say it was near the most... I said they're making money on systems already.

What would be the point of Sony asking that? Having all 1st party xbox games on Gamepass day one would make the system redundant. 

Lmao. 



EricHiggin on 20 January 2022
ironmanDX said:
EricHiggin said:

So if making money on hardware is so great, then why would MS disregard hardware?

MS hates the 'most' profitable portions of gaming? MS hates control?

The only GP on PS5 strategy that makes any sense right now for SNY, though sleezy, would be to agree before MS makes any more acquisitions, which includes having MS stop selling XB hardware anymore. Then do what some of the tech companies have done to cripple their competitors and say, 'XB is bad because reasons, so we're kicking/banning GP off PS5 entirely'.

Lol wut. 

I didn't say it was near the most... I said they're making money on systems already.

What would be the point of Sony asking that? Having all 1st party xbox games on Gamepass day one would make the system redundant. 

Lmao. 

What would be the point in MS asking SNY to put GP on PS5?

LMAO.



PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

ironmanDX on 20 January 2022
EricHiggin said:
ironmanDX said:

Lol wut. 

I didn't say it was near the most... I said they're making money on systems already.

What would be the point of Sony asking that? Having all 1st party xbox games on Gamepass day one would make the system redundant. 

Lmao. 

What would be the point in MS asking SNY to put GP on PS5?

LMAO.

To PLAY ANYWHERE! 

It's already been offered. Sony DECLINED. 



EricHiggin on 20 January 2022
ironmanDX said:
EricHiggin said:

What would be the point in MS asking SNY to put GP on PS5?

LMAO.

To PLAY ANYWHERE! 

It's already been offered. Sony DECLINED. 

They sure did. They did indeed.

Seems like they're not the only ones either.

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PS1   - ! - We must build a console that can alert our enemies.

PS2  - @- We must build a console that offers online living room gaming.

PS3   - #- We must build a console that’s powerful, social, costs and does everything.

PS4   - $- We must build a console that’s affordable, charges for services, and pumps out exclusives.

PRO  -%-We must build a console that's VR ready, checkerboard upscales, and sells but a fraction of the money printer.

PS5   - ^ -We must build a console that’s a generational cross product, with RT lighting, and price hiking.

PRO  -&- We must build a console that Super Res upscales and continues the cost increases.

Mandalore76 on 20 January 2022
BasilZero said:
Mandalore76 said:

Weren't the Arc The Lad games developed by G-Craft, who is now a member of SquareEnix's development division?  And weren't the Dark Cloud games developed by Level 5?  Pretty sure Sony only published those games, but don't hold any IP ownership over them.

Pretty sure Arc the Lad and Dark Cloud are still owned by Sony.

twintail said:
BasilZero said:

Pretty sure Arc the Lad and Dark Cloud are still owned by Sony.

They most definitely do 

I stand corrected.  The wiki wasn't explicit on the ownership, just mentioning exclusivity to PlayStation and that Sony was the publisher.  The release on WonderSwan Color was throwing me off, but I've seen now that it's clearly marked on the WonderSwan case "Arc The Lad is a trademark of Sony Computer Entertainment".