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The goal is not to get the CoD and Battlefield players from PS over to GamePass. The goal is to get hundreds of millions of subscribers from the 6 billion smart phone users floating around.

For those just playing CoD, FIFA yearly it will still remain a better deal to buy the games out right. Gamepass is only beneficial is you buy an play a lot of different games. If you're just interested in playing a few games a lot, it doesn't make sense to lay down $180 a year and prices will only go up.

The 69 billion dollar deal comes with CoD mobile, Candy Crush and Diablo Immortal (in the works for mobile phones). Mobile has been making more money for Activision/Blizzard since they absorbed King. The App store and Google play are the new rivals. Tencent the new competitor. But just as with Sony and MS, MS will likely be working together with Tencent (just like Activision-Blizzard worked with Tencent to develop CoD mobile) to break into the mobile phone space.

We might see different tiers for gamepass
- Cheapest, access to mobile games library, ad free downloads and play time
- Middle of the road, streaming to mobile phones added
- Ultimate, full access to PC, Console and Mobile games streaming
Probably more plans, console and PC centric plans will continue as well.

However consoles are on the way out and game development will shift to be made more suitable for streaming and mobile gaming on the go. It's not a future I'm interested in (don't even have a smartphone) but that's where the growth is at. Once MS moves on to play with Apple and Google, Nintendo and Sony (and who knows a new competitor) can pick up the pieces in console development. Although it's looking like Nintendo is going to stick with dedicated handhelds, Sony with consoles while MS has its sights set on the smartphone market.

Nintendo opted out of the console race, MS is moving on from the console market. Sony seems to be simply continuing with what they are good at.



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I would say that is steady growth. The day 1 exclusives are nice, but the real heavy hitting ones did not come till year's end. I suspect once more big 1st party games come day 1 such as Hellblade 2, Fable 4, and Bethesda games we will see a huge boost. Then a second wave once the Activision deal closes (no matter what they decide to do with CoD).



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That growth had come primarily from older titles being added. Almost none of the studios they have purchased have produced new exclusives since being bought. By 2025 these studios will be pumping out Xbox exclusives left and right. That 25m is impressive considering it's got to that almost entirely based on legacy content. Imagine what it will do with nonstop new exclusives coming in!



Dulfite said:

That growth had come primarily from older titles being added. Almost none of the studios they have purchased have produced new exclusives since being bought. By 2025 these studios will be pumping out Xbox exclusives left and right. That 25m is impressive considering it's got to that almost entirely based on legacy content. Imagine what it will do with nonstop new exclusives coming in!

Maybe for early adopters, but nowdays the service pulls in more new and actual 3rd party and 1st party content for people to play with which is why the service actually grew into what it is now.

Old-Gen games and legacy content can only get you so far.



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As much as I know people love game pass—I’m worried about the inevitable. It only takes one subscription to start up tons more. Netflix was one of the first to do so, now look at how many streaming services there are for television. It’s becoming ridiculous, and the same thing will happen with game streaming subscription services. Soon there will be too many to where it gets overwhelming when the competition starts to see the revenue benefits. I think that’s just an ugly future.



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SvennoJ said:

The goal is not to get the CoD and Battlefield players from PS over to GamePass. The goal is to get hundreds of millions of subscribers from the 6 billion smart phone users floating around.

The goal is both. Obviously they want more marketshare in console business, especially outside US. Every CoD player on Playstation is a potential gp subscriber and would potentially buy games and mtx on Xbox.

This AB aquisition ticks many boxes from console to PC and mobile, even E-Sports. Yes mobile market is huge and important push for Microsoft to bring gp there, but you put too much weight into it while dismissing all other aquisitions Microsoft has recently made to clearly push console sales too.

I don't personally think consoles are going away, afaik it's a growing business still and I can't help you're doing another spin on the "Microsoft is opting out of console business" narrative we kept hearing throughout last gen.



KiigelHeart said:
SvennoJ said:

The goal is not to get the CoD and Battlefield players from PS over to GamePass. The goal is to get hundreds of millions of subscribers from the 6 billion smart phone users floating around.

The goal is both. Obviously they want more marketshare in console business, especially outside US. Every CoD player on Playstation is a potential gp subscriber and would potentially buy games and mtx on Xbox.

This AB aquisition ticks many boxes from console to PC and mobile, even E-Sports. Yes mobile market is huge and important push for Microsoft to bring gp there, but you put too much weight into it while dismissing all other aquisitions Microsoft has recently made to clearly push console sales too.

I don't personally think consoles are going away, afaik it's a growing business still and I can't help you're doing another spin on the "Microsoft is opting out of console business" narrative we kept hearing throughout last gen.

MS has been making the console less relevant for years now. I think they want out of the hardware market, but doing it the Nintendo way. The Switch is practically there for the ones that were playing Nintendo games on console to switch to handheld (that can also work on tv). MS has been propping up their PC presence with gamepass and the xbox app, getting people to switch from buying games on console to play anywhere through gamepass.

True every CoD player on Playstation is a potential GP subscriber, but there are far more people playing mobile games.

Console/PC is the foundation for gamepass, mobile is what will build the sky scraper on top with xCloud and more mobile oriented games.

Once gamepass is available on TV and smartphones, what would the point for MS to keep making boxes?



SvennoJ said:
KiigelHeart said:

The goal is both. Obviously they want more marketshare in console business, especially outside US. Every CoD player on Playstation is a potential gp subscriber and would potentially buy games and mtx on Xbox.

This AB aquisition ticks many boxes from console to PC and mobile, even E-Sports. Yes mobile market is huge and important push for Microsoft to bring gp there, but you put too much weight into it while dismissing all other aquisitions Microsoft has recently made to clearly push console sales too.

I don't personally think consoles are going away, afaik it's a growing business still and I can't help you're doing another spin on the "Microsoft is opting out of console business" narrative we kept hearing throughout last gen.

MS has been making the console less relevant for years now. I think they want out of the hardware market, but doing it the Nintendo way. The Switch is practically there for the ones that were playing Nintendo games on console to switch to handheld (that can also work on tv). MS has been propping up their PC presence with gamepass and the xbox app, getting people to switch from buying games on console to play anywhere through gamepass.

True every CoD player on Playstation is a potential GP subscriber, but there are far more people playing mobile games.

Console/PC is the foundation for gamepass, mobile is what will build the sky scraper on top with xCloud and more mobile oriented games.

Once gamepass is available on TV and smartphones, what would the point for MS to keep making boxes?

i suspect premium devices that aren't sold at a loss



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SvennoJ said:

MS has been making the console less relevant for years now. I think they want out of the hardware market, but doing it the Nintendo way. The Switch is practically there for the ones that were playing Nintendo games on console to switch to handheld (that can also work on tv). MS has been propping up their PC presence with gamepass and the xbox app, getting people to switch from buying games on console to play anywhere through gamepass.

True every CoD player on Playstation is a potential GP subscriber, but there are far more people playing mobile games.

Console/PC is the foundation for gamepass, mobile is what will build the sky scraper on top with xCloud and more mobile oriented games.

Once gamepass is available on TV and smartphones, what would the point for MS to keep making boxes?

Sell hardware, sell 3rd (and 1st party) games and mtx on their platform, sell live services and gp subs.. to millions of hardcore gamers who prefer gaming on console or PC and are spending good money. Gamers who play multiplayer games and want the best performance. It's a huge community and business.

I don't see how game pass would thrive by being just a Netflix of games amongst other subscription services and mobile games.



Mar1217 said:
Dulfite said:

That growth had come primarily from older titles being added. Almost none of the studios they have purchased have produced new exclusives since being bought. By 2025 these studios will be pumping out Xbox exclusives left and right. That 25m is impressive considering it's got to that almost entirely based on legacy content. Imagine what it will do with nonstop new exclusives coming in!

Maybe for early adopters, but nowdays the service pulls in more new and actual 3rd party and 1st party content for people to play with which is why the service actually grew into what it is now.

Old-Gen games and legacy content can only get you so far.

I agree old content can only get so far. There have been a decent amount of revolving third party games coming and going, and a ton of first party legacy games, but not very many first party brand new games. That will change drastically in the coming months and years.