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Do you plan to buy a Switch OLED model?

Yes, and it will be my first Switch 39 4.48%
 
Yes, and I already own a Switch/Switch Lite 133 15.29%
 
No, I am still not interested in any Switch 128 14.71%
 
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IcaroRibeiro said:

Yes. All Game Cube games I've played were through emulation. Unlike SNES and N64 that were plentiful, I've never really saw anyone in Brazil with a Game Cube, it was a system I know it existed thanks to Magazines (although they were mainly focused on Playstation 2 at the time)

I also emulated GBC and some GBA games as well. My first Nintendo handheld was a DS, and even though they could play GBA cartridges I was just much more convenient (and free) to download GBA roms as those cartridges weren't that easy to find at stores, I think the only GBA games I've legally played on DS were the ones my neighbor gave to me

The point is, if a 7 to 8 years old kid had no problem emulating I don't think grown up men and women would have such problems either

As an 8 year old I had no problem with piracy either. Then I grew up, got a job in software development, saw my own work get pirated and never pirated since. Sure you can legally use the emulators, and if you dump the roms yourself, from your own copy, on your own cracked hardware, it's technically legal as well. However, instead of going through all that, I rather just play the original software on the original hardware instead. (Since you got to have that anyway to 'legally' emulate)

So yes, nowadays I do have a problem with emulation. And even the defense of, well I bought the game, so I can download the ROM, does not hold up imo. You're promoting the download on an illegal rom. I deleted my MAME collection long ago as well as other stuff, not mine to use.

Sometimes it can be very inconvenient. I just ordered S4 of the Expanse from the USA, gave up waiting for a Canada release. It can probably be downloaded in plenty places. Waiting for games to arrive from Play Asia can take a long time, there's plenty to play locally anyway.



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SvennoJ said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Yes. All Game Cube games I've played were through emulation. Unlike SNES and N64 that were plentiful, I've never really saw anyone in Brazil with a Game Cube, it was a system I know it existed thanks to Magazines (although they were mainly focused on Playstation 2 at the time)

I also emulated GBC and some GBA games as well. My first Nintendo handheld was a DS, and even though they could play GBA cartridges I was just much more convenient (and free) to download GBA roms as those cartridges weren't that easy to find at stores, I think the only GBA games I've legally played on DS were the ones my neighbor gave to me

The point is, if a 7 to 8 years old kid had no problem emulating I don't think grown up men and women would have such problems either

As an 8 year old I had no problem with piracy either. Then I grew up, got a job in software development, saw my own work get pirated and never pirated since. Sure you can legally use the emulators, and if you dump the roms yourself, from your own copy, on your own cracked hardware, it's technically legal as well. However, instead of going through all that, I rather just play the original software on the original hardware instead. (Since you got to have that anyway to 'legally' emulate)

So yes, nowadays I do have a problem with emulation. And even the defense of, well I bought the game, so I can download the ROM, does not hold up imo. You're promoting the download on an illegal rom. I deleted my MAME collection long ago as well as other stuff, not mine to use.

Sometimes it can be very inconvenient. I just ordered S4 of the Expanse from the USA, gave up waiting for a Canada release. It can probably be downloaded in plenty places. Waiting for games to arrive from Play Asia can take a long time, there's plenty to play locally anyway.

Well by "no problem" I didn't mean moral problem, I just said emulation is easy and don't need advanced tech knowledge to use it. If a kid can emulate games, a grown ass man will have no major problem either 

The discussion about the blurred lines of which levels of piracy should be accepted however is far more complicated. Once I get my first job I also quit piracy (mostly, still pirating some comics and animes), but then I had an insight of a fundamental truth: Without piracy, I wouldn't have the same hobbies as have today. Or at least wouldn't be nearly as engaged to them as I am today. For instance, I don't spend money drinking or partying, I'd rather just save money to buy more mangas or go to cinema instead. So in reality the years of a shameless stealing when I was a teenager (when I couldn't afford any of those things I was stealing anyway) actually created an avid customer for many years perhaps decades to come. 

I also think I have a more... "open" perspective about piracy because of a strong cultural difference. You live in Canada, an american neighbor. I can only guess the absolute majority of cultural products you consume are quickly released there. I'm Brazilian and sometimes movies, series, games and comics can simply never be released here. For instance, books. I only started buying non released books in Brazil when I got a Kindle and could download them, before that it was just incredibly hard and expensive to import something all the way from USA, and of course the options were far limited, it was basically Amazon or nothing 

So in the end, while piracy is in fact stealing I can only find it morally wrong when a simple question is raised: Can you afford whatever you are stealing? And by afford, sometimes it means you would need to stop spending with another things i.e. deciding to whether rent a movie or buying a game but still affording nonetheless 

If the answer is yes, then I agree. It's a bad thing and should stop

If the answer is no, then I disagree. That person wouldn't have bought it legally anyway, so why bother?



IcaroRibeiro said:

Well by "no problem" I didn't mean moral problem, I just said emulation is easy and don't need advanced tech knowledge to use it. If a kid can emulate games, a grown ass man will have no major problem either 

The discussion about the blurred lines of which levels of piracy should be accepted however is far more complicated. Once I get my first job I also quit piracy (mostly, still pirating some comics and animes), but then I had an insight of a fundamental truth: Without piracy, I wouldn't have the same hobbies as have today. Or at least wouldn't be nearly as engaged to them as I am today. For instance, I don't spend money drinking or partying, I'd rather just save money to buy more mangas or go to cinema instead. So in reality the years of a shameless stealing when I was a teenager (when I couldn't afford any of those things I was stealing anyway) actually created an avid customer for many years perhaps decades to come. 

I also think I have a more... "open" perspective about piracy because of a strong cultural difference. You live in Canada, an american neighbor. I can only guess the absolute majority of cultural products you consume are quickly released there. I'm Brazilian and sometimes movies, series, games and comics can simply never be released here. For instance, books. I only started buying non released books in Brazil when I got a Kindle and could download them, before that it was just incredibly hard and expensive to import something all the way from USA, and of course the options were far limited, it was basically Amazon or nothing 

So in the end, while piracy is in fact stealing I can only find it morally wrong when a simple question is raised: Can you afford whatever you are stealing? And by afford, sometimes it means you would need to stop spending with another things i.e. deciding to whether rent a movie or buying a game but still affording nonetheless 

If the answer is yes, then I agree. It's a bad thing and should stop

If the answer is no, then I disagree. That person wouldn't have bought it legally anyway, so why bother?

I actually grew up in the Netherlands where piracy was the norm. From early age, games mostly came on copied cassettes for C64 and MSX, then copy parties with the Amiga 500 and PC.

Some things also never got released there and I went to Amazon as well from 1996 on. Importing from the UK and USA. I imported a region free DVD player from the UK to be able to watch the movies I wanted to watch.


I don't know what I would have done without piracy. Maybe I would have been chasing work more, make my own money to afford games. I would most likely have spend more time on learning to code and making my own things.

That last argument only holds up for food imo. It's luxury entertainment, not essential to live.


But on the other side, it also exposed me to many genres and different games I would maybe never have bought. And I might have spend my time in worse ways without the vast access to games. Anyway for kids growing up and wanting to try everything out, I don't see a problem with it. But at some point, you lose that excuse.