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Maynard_Tool said:

Come on people, the new switch when on sale today in Amazon. Couldn’t even pre-ordered it. The white model was sold out as soon as it came out; the other one held on for like 3 minutes, and sold out too. Hopefully it will go on sale on best buy soon. This will sell just fine

Dem scalpers be hoardin'



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curl-6 said:
DitchPlaya said:

People should really stop hating on the OLED model. This will hold off the cliff for a little longer which we know the Wii saw at 100 million.

While I agree that the OLED model hate is unwarranted, there's no reason for Switch to see the same cliff as Wii. The circumstances are very different; Wii's software support dried up overnight in its 5th year; this isn't happening with Switch. Switch also has broader appeal and therefore a higher saturation point.

Not only dried up, but Skyward Sword and Other M were also the controversial versions of the consolidated franchises. And late localization of the Japanese RPG for Switch: Pandora Tower, The Last Story and Xenoblade. So, four software pipelines in the same time(Ds, Wii, 3ds, wiiu), the bad games for consolidated franchises, and the hard game for localizations the Japanese RPG. Add up the transition for HD TV, in 2011, have consolidated too. 



Agente42 said:
curl-6 said:

While I agree that the OLED model hate is unwarranted, there's no reason for Switch to see the same cliff as Wii. The circumstances are very different; Wii's software support dried up overnight in its 5th year; this isn't happening with Switch. Switch also has broader appeal and therefore a higher saturation point.

Not only dried up, but Skyward Sword and Other M were also the controversial versions of the consolidated franchises. And late localization of the Japanese RPG for Switch: Pandora Tower, The Last Story and Xenoblade. So, four software pipelines in the same time(Ds, Wii, 3ds, wiiu), the bad games for consolidated franchises, and the hard game for localizations the Japanese RPG. Add up the transition for HD TV, in 2011, have consolidated too. 

Yeah Nintendo definitely missed an opportunity to bolster the Wii's last years by not giving proper localized releases to not only the Rainfall trio but also Fatal Frame 2 Wii Edition; I feel like if all 4 had gotten well advertised global releases in 2011-2012 the Wii would be better remembered. They really dropped the ball after a phenomenal first four years.

Thankfully there's no sign this is set to happen for the Switch; 2022 is already looking stronger than Wii's 2011 and we probably don't even know about most of its notable games yet.



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curl-6 said:
Agente42 said:

Not only dried up, but Skyward Sword and Other M were also the controversial versions of the consolidated franchises. And late localization of the Japanese RPG for Switch: Pandora Tower, The Last Story and Xenoblade. So, four software pipelines in the same time(Ds, Wii, 3ds, wiiu), the bad games for consolidated franchises, and the hard game for localizations the Japanese RPG. Add up the transition for HD TV, in 2011, have consolidated too. 

Yeah Nintendo definitely missed an opportunity to bolster the Wii's last years by not giving proper localized releases to not only the Rainfall trio but also Fatal Frame 2 Wii Edition; I feel like if all 4 had gotten well advertised global releases in 2011-2012 the Wii would be better remembered. They really dropped the ball after a phenomenal first four years.

Thankfully there's no sign this is set to happen for the Switch; 2022 is already looking stronger than Wii's 2011 and we probably don't even know about most of its notable games yet.

Yeah. Forget Fatal Frame 2. 



curl-6 said:

Yeah Nintendo definitely missed an opportunity to bolster the Wii's last years by not giving proper localized releases to not only the Rainfall trio but also Fatal Frame 2 Wii Edition; I feel like if all 4 had gotten well advertised global releases in 2011-2012 the Wii would be better remembered. They really dropped the ball after a phenomenal first four years.

That was Reggie's doing, we in europe got these games localized. That time was the only time as a european gamer we didn't got the short end of the stick. Monolith's game prior to Xenpobla, Disaster: Day of Crisis also came to europe.



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Mnementh said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah Nintendo definitely missed an opportunity to bolster the Wii's last years by not giving proper localized releases to not only the Rainfall trio but also Fatal Frame 2 Wii Edition; I feel like if all 4 had gotten well advertised global releases in 2011-2012 the Wii would be better remembered. They really dropped the ball after a phenomenal first four years.

That was Reggie's doing, we in europe got these games localized. That time was the only time as a european gamer we didn't got the short end of the stick. Monolith's game prior to Xenpobla, Disaster: Day of Crisis also came to europe.

I'm a PAL gamer myself so I was one of the fortunate ones, but even here they got basically zero advertising. If they'd come out in NA at the same time as PAL and Nintendo had actively pushed them I really think it would've helped the Wii remain a relevant platform just through seeming less abandoned.

At any rate, Nintendo's gotten a lot better in this regard so it doesn't look like Switch is headed for a similar scenario.



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Manufacturing the end of a generation is something Nintendo had done from the beginning. The Wii isn’t the only console they messed up with, the SNES could have gone strong for 2-3 more years as well. The funny thing is the generational transitions worked A LOT better when they kept up support past the beginning of the following generation: NES to SNES, and GBA to DS are two good examples.

With the Switch, they could do this even better by releasing most of their software as dual-tier for X-years while they transition between generations. Some games will obviously require the Switch 2 as the minimum requirement, but I doubt that’s going to be the majority of them for years to come. Probably until 720/1080p TV is no longer the International standard. But, essentially, the dual-tier games means later adopters are more likely to update because they’ve already been investing in the Switch ecosystem.

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Jumpin said:

Manufacturing the end of a generation is something Nintendo had done from the beginning. The Wii isn’t the only console they messed up with, the SNES could have gone strong for 2-3 more years as well. The funny thing is the generational transitions worked A LOT better when they kept up support past the beginning of the following generation: NES to SNES, and GBA to DS are two good examples.

With the Switch, they could do this even better by releasing most of their software as dual-tier for X-years while they transition between generations. Some games will obviously require the Switch 2 as the minimum requirement, but I doubt that’s going to be the majority of them for years to come. Probably until 720/1080p TV is no longer the International standard. But, essentially, the dual-tier games means later adopters are more likely to update because they’ve already been investing in the Switch ecosystem.

As much as I'm not enthusiastic about the crossgen strategy you propose, I must admit PS5 and Xbox Series are proving it can be successful commercially. I'd probably forego Switch 2 such a scenario until Switch 1 support dried up, and I'd still rather Switch 2 not come until 2023 at the earliest.

I don't think waiting until 1998-1999 to release the N64 would've been a good idea though, PS1 and Saturn would then have gotten 4-5 years head start and the PS2 and Xbox would be around the corner.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Nintendo innovation strikes again.



DitchPlaya said:

Nintendo innovation strikes again.

Watch that trolling.



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