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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware May 30-June 5 - PS5 Sales Top 9 Million

The_Liquid_Laser said:
curl-6 said:

Because it's selling faster in Japan so far than PS4 did, and will most likely get mainline Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, and Final Fantasy games. For me the question is more why would it slow down and sell less than PS4?

Because the PS5 isn't going to get as many exclusive Japanese titles as the PS4.  Most Japanese games are either going to be multiplat or Switch exclusive.

I don't see why that would be the case, at least not to the extent that it will significantly affect sales; Sony like to moneyhat and plenty of Japanese devs have shown no reluctance to go all in on Playstation, even with the Switch dominating the market.



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Mbolibombo said:
curl-6 said:

Sony are known to moneyhat though, and DQ12 being an Unreal Engine 5 game doesn't suggest it's targeting Switch.

Why is that? Unreal Engine 5 will be compatible with Switch. 

Mainline Dragon Quest has always been released on the market leader in Japan, always. They went another direction at first for DQXI but they even backtracked and made a version for 3DS for DQXI because they werent confident in the PS4 selling prowess in Japan - the game's only big market. They're not going to do the same for PS5 again. It's going to be a cross platform game.

make the same mistake as DQ XI is square insanity move. Switch/Ps4/Ps5/PC/Xbox or Switch/PC is the rational way. Neither sony launch many games Ps5 only. 



curl-6 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Because the PS5 isn't going to get as many exclusive Japanese titles as the PS4.  Most Japanese games are either going to be multiplat or Switch exclusive.

I don't see why that would be the case, at least not to the extent that it will significantly affect sales; Sony like to moneyhat and plenty of Japanese devs have shown no reluctance to go all in on Playstation, even with the Switch dominating the market.

Sony isn't moneyhatting games that target the Japanese market. They want to focus on the west. More and more Japanese devs have given in over the last few years and started supporting the Switch. The only ones that are never going to do so are Falcom and Bandai Namco Studios, because of Harada. None of his games come to the Switch.



curl-6 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Because the PS5 isn't going to get as many exclusive Japanese titles as the PS4.  Most Japanese games are either going to be multiplat or Switch exclusive.

I don't see why that would be the case, at least not to the extent that it will significantly affect sales; Sony like to moneyhat and plenty of Japanese devs have shown no reluctance to go all in on Playstation, even with the Switch dominating the market.

You're thinking assumes that devs can make a game in a really short amount of time.  In reality, most Japanese games take about 3-4 years time to develop.  The third party games that are being released this year are based on how people thought the Switch would sell in 2017-2018 (i.e. decently well, but not super amazing).  Based on that alone Switch is getting a multiplatform version of most Japanese titles.  We haven't seen yet seen how devs have responded to Switch's 2020 sales.  PS5 in 2023-2024 will be lucky to get any third party exclusives that target Japan. 

Game makers like to make a profit on their games.  Switch is selling like the DS, but it's capable of playing big budget titles like a home console.  At this point every Japanese game developer is going to want to put their games on the Switch.  It has everything they want.  At the same time, Sony has mostly given up on Japan.  They aren't going to moneyhat a game from a series that has mostly just sold to Japan in the past.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
curl-6 said:

I don't see why that would be the case, at least not to the extent that it will significantly affect sales; Sony like to moneyhat and plenty of Japanese devs have shown no reluctance to go all in on Playstation, even with the Switch dominating the market.

You're thinking assumes that devs can make a game in a really short amount of time.  In reality, most Japanese games take about 3-4 years time to develop.  The third party games that are being released this year are based on how people thought the Switch would sell in 2017-2018 (i.e. decently well, but not super amazing).  Based on that alone Switch is getting a multiplatform version of most Japanese titles.  We haven't seen yet seen how devs have responded to Switch's 2020 sales.  PS5 in 2023-2024 will be lucky to get any third party exclusives that target Japan. 

Game makers like to make a profit on their games.  Switch is selling like the DS, but it's capable of playing big budget titles like a home console.  At this point every Japanese game developer is going to want to put their games on the Switch.  It has everything they want.  At the same time, Sony has mostly given up on Japan.  They aren't going to moneyhat a game from a series that has mostly just sold to Japan in the past.

What you're saying is very sensible and logical, but we've seen that third parties often do not have sensibly or logically when it comes to what systems they support, they often show bias.

PS4 didn't set Japan on fire sales wise yet it was showered with big Japanese games, I see no reason why PS5 will be any different when it is selling faster than the PS4 in Japan.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.