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Kyuu said:

A TLoU Remake would NOT be pointless. Even Shadow of the Colossus got remastered in gen 7 then remade in gen 8. Now hear me out:

1. The Remaster was in essence a PS3 game. Think what you want of TLoU, but a two generation gap more than justifies remaking a beloved and hugely successful game.
2. The Remake will coincide with the HBO series which also features Joel as the main character. I imagine they will make some narrative tweaks so as to fit the new series's direction, but I hope to god they're not planning to outkojima Hideo Kojima by replacing the character models with the new actors!
3. Introducing the game to PC gamers in the form of a remake (as opposed to a glorified PS3 game) should give it a very healthy sales boost.
4. Joel is love, Joel is life.

I'm not sure if I agree with most of your points here.

1. The game was released on the PS2 and PS3 and remastered for the PS4, there is no generation gap. SotC didn't have it either, but that at least had the excuse of the PS3 version not being playable on the PS4, whereas this has no such excuse.

2. There are going to be inevitable comparisons between the original game, the remake and the series, and considering the fanbase is still recovering from the effects of TLoU2's writing kerfuffle, I'm not sure if any change from the original will be taken as something positive.

3. Fair enough, but considering the game would sell gangbusters on PC anyway, it feels somewhat pointless. A straight port would've sufficed.

If the remake rumour is true, it's going to sell anyway due to the brand's name, but I don't think there's going to be any benefit from a remake, especially for PS5 users. At least PC users will have the excuse of the game not being available until now, but what's to stop PS5 fans from just dusting off their PS4 copies and playing it again?

Last edited by Darwinianevolution - on 10 April 2021

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I bet all of you will be praising over this remake if it's demonstrated being played through the new PSVR2 and has ray-traced lighting and surround sound.



The dark side of capitalism.



Gameplay > Graphics

Substance > Style

Art Direction > Realism

Sure, let's remake one of PS3's most advanced games that already have a remaster for last gen that is on PS Plus Collection, instead of remaking fucking LoD that I've been claiming for 15 years now.

Fuck you Sony.

Also, ridiculous article, Jason really knows a lot about things happening but he should stay at that, giving info, instead of adding his opinion on it. His sources are really good, his opinions are not.



Darwinianevolution said:
Kyuu said:

A TLoU Remake would NOT be pointless. Even Shadow of the Colossus got remastered in gen 7 then remade in gen 8. Now hear me out:

1. The Remaster was in essence a PS3 game. Think what you want of TLoU, but a two generation gap more than justifies remaking a beloved and hugely successful game.
2. The Remake will coincide with the HBO series which also features Joel as the main character. I imagine they will make some narrative tweaks so as to fit the new series's direction, but I hope to god they're not planning to outkojima Hideo Kojima by replacing the character models with the new actors!
3. Introducing the game to PC gamers in the form of a remake (as opposed to a glorified PS3 game) should give it a very healthy sales boost.
4. Joel is love, Joel is life.

I'm not sure if I agree with most of your points here.

1. The game was released on the PS2 and PS3 and remastered for the PS4, there is no generation gap. SotC didn't have it either, but that at least had the excuse of the PS3 version not being playable on the PS4, whereas this has no such excuse.

2. There are going to be inevitable comparisons between the original game, the remake and the series, and considering the fanbase is still recovering from the effects of TLoU2's writing kerfuffle, I'm not sure if any change from the original will be taken as something positive.

3. Fair enough, but considering the game would sell gangbusters on PC anyway, it feels somewhat pointless. A straight port would've sufficed.

If the remake rumour is true, it's going to sell anyway due to the brand's name, but I don't think there's going to be any benefit from a remake, especially for PS5 users. At least PC users will have the excuse of the game not being available until now, but what's to stop PS5 fans from just dusting off their PS4 copies and playing it again?

Glad to see you can't possibly refute his 4th point.



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BraLoD said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I'm not sure if I agree with most of your points here.

1. The game was released on the PS2 and PS3 and remastered for the PS4, there is no generation gap. SotC didn't have it either, but that at least had the excuse of the PS3 version not being playable on the PS4, whereas this has no such excuse.

2. There are going to be inevitable comparisons between the original game, the remake and the series, and considering the fanbase is still recovering from the effects of TLoU2's writing kerfuffle, I'm not sure if any change from the original will be taken as something positive.

3. Fair enough, but considering the game would sell gangbusters on PC anyway, it feels somewhat pointless. A straight port would've sufficed.

If the remake rumour is true, it's going to sell anyway due to the brand's name, but I don't think there's going to be any benefit from a remake, especially for PS5 users. At least PC users will have the excuse of the game not being available until now, but what's to stop PS5 fans from just dusting off their PS4 copies and playing it again?

Glad to see you can't possibly refute his 4th point.

I don't know how, I haven't played TLoU. :P



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Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

BraLoD said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I'm not sure if I agree with most of your points here.

1. The game was released on the PS2 and PS3 and remastered for the PS4, there is no generation gap. SotC didn't have it either, but that at least had the excuse of the PS3 version not being playable on the PS4, whereas this has no such excuse.

2. There are going to be inevitable comparisons between the original game, the remake and the series, and considering the fanbase is still recovering from the effects of TLoU2's writing kerfuffle, I'm not sure if any change from the original will be taken as something positive.

3. Fair enough, but considering the game would sell gangbusters on PC anyway, it feels somewhat pointless. A straight port would've sufficed.

If the remake rumour is true, it's going to sell anyway due to the brand's name, but I don't think there's going to be any benefit from a remake, especially for PS5 users. At least PC users will have the excuse of the game not being available until now, but what's to stop PS5 fans from just dusting off their PS4 copies and playing it again?

Glad to see you can't possibly refute his 4th point.

Spoiler!
I think the claim that Joel is life is well refuted by Abby.


GoOnKid said:

The dark side of capitalism.

I dunno about that. 

I might not agree with the decision, but if people are getting joy out of the remake, well that's them.

And, while it might discourage investing in new games, it also kind of incentivizing making quality products.

Okami is a great example. It was a game that was really well received, but sold poorly when it was launched. But, over time, remakes have turned it into a game that sold at least 2 million copies, probably closer to three.

So, especially with games that are somewhat more risky and less likely to be an immediate success, the potential of selling for over a decade factors into the decision on whether to invest or not. And it creates an incentive to actually make it good, because a crap game probably isn't being remade two gens later.



JWeinCom said:
BraLoD said:

Glad to see you can't possibly refute his 4th point.

Spoiler!
I think the claim that Joel is life is well refuted by Abby.
Spoiler!
He did save her tho, Joel actually does means life for Abby, funny enough.


BraLoD said:
JWeinCom said:
Spoiler!
I think the claim that Joel is life is well refuted by Abby.
Spoiler!
He did save her tho, Joel actually does means life for Abby, funny enough.

Touche.