sales2099 said:
JWeinCom said:
Basically, which is my problem with the people decrying cancel culture.
It's essentially saying that everyone is entitled to express their opinion, but when enough people share an opinion that can actually pressure a company to change what they're doing, then that's an evil thing called cancel culture.
It's fine for people to think it's ridiculous for Gina to be fired. There's a lot of idiotic examples of people bitching about it. Honestly, I don't even think she should have been fired.
But if you think that, just say "I think these people have an idiotic position", that's fine. The problem is when people act as though people are doing something immoral or evil and the destroying the fabric of America by voicing their opinion.
It comes down to, "you can't criticize what Gina is saying... because of free speech"! Which is a baffling bit of mental gymnastics. Freedom of speech means freedom to say someone should shut the fuck up or that someone should be fired.
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The broader issue here is that mainstream conservatives feel they can’t even speak their opinions without fear of losing their jobs and reputation. Whatever you choose to believe, it’s not 50/50 treatment, enter the Pedro/Gina Holocaust comparisons. I’m not talking alt-right opinions, but civil discussion and comparison of ideas between mainstream liberal and conservative beliefs.
Silencing speech via in person/online bullying, mob mentality, and threats to have you fired is the exact antithesis of American values. And the irony is completely lost on the very people that believe they are doing the right thing.
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I'm not going to get into whether Gina or Pedro's tweets were more offensive, but they're drastically different. Not all holocaust references are the same. There's a difference between "putting kids in cages is like what they did in the holocaust" and "criticizing my ideas is like the holocaust". Again, not going to argue which is better or worse, but they're different situations, and would get different responses, especially since Gina has tweeted other things as well such as decrying masks during a pandemic, where too my knowledge, Pedro has not.
You already have shown that you'll change the subject whenever cornered, so I'm not super inclined to continue.
But feel free to give some examples of conservatives who got cancelled for expressing mainstream conservative opinions. Cause "everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi" and "you shouldn't wear masks during a pandemic" shouldn't qualify.
This is just the kind of bullshit Gina was doing. Expressing bat shit crazy ideas and then saying "oh it has nothing to do with the ideas being crazy or offensive, it's just cause I was conservative and you're all a bunch of Nazis".
Defending Gina while simultaneously arguing that the left is vilifying people is... bizarre. Why is it ok for Gina to vilify those who disagree with her?
Last edited by JWeinCom - on 14 February 2021