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thismeintiel said:
Chris Hu said:

Homelessness in the USA is pretty much a state issue not a national issue the last president that actually cared for the homeless was LBJ a Democrat.  As far as I know no Republican president actually did anything significant to reduce the homeless problem in the USA.

Why would you want the president to be some omnipotent ruler to control everything. That's not his job, not should it be. No, this problem in popping up in Dem controlled states/cities. Instead of fixing the problem, they are encouraging it by giving out drug needles and tents, decriminalizing hard drugs, and forming poop patrols to clean up where these people just shit in the streets.

Sure lets just do nothing about it and the problem will go away by itself that is the perfect solution for all problems by Republicans and right wingers.



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Chris Hu said:
sales2099 said:

California has voted Democrat since Bill Clinton in the 90s. If you can’t remove homeless tents and trash that is due to the result of the people in charge, and whatever policies they believe in. 

Homelessness in the USA is pretty much a state issue not a national issue the last president that actually cared for the homeless was LBJ a Democrat.  As far as I know no Republican president actually did anything significant to reduce the homeless problem in the USA.

Thanks for agreeing with me. California has been a Dem state for over 20 years. They are in charge of this. They have enacted policies that make it difficult to forcibly remove squatters. Don’t shift the blame to anybody else. 

Sure lets just do nothing about it and the problem will go away by itself that is the perfect solution for all problems by Republicans and right wingers.

So you think it’s ok for kids and people in general to be exposed to tent neighborhoods and things like open trash, human feces and needles on the street with the full blessing of the state government? 

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sales2099 said:
Chris Hu said:

Homelessness in the USA is pretty much a state issue not a national issue the last president that actually cared for the homeless was LBJ a Democrat.  As far as I know no Republican president actually did anything significant to reduce the homeless problem in the USA.

Thanks for agreeing with me. California has been a Dem state for over 20 years. They are in charge of this. They have enacted policies that make it difficult to forcibly remove squatters. Don’t shift the blame to anybody else. 

Sure lets just do nothing about it and the problem will go away by itself that is the perfect solution for all problems by Republicans and right wingers.

So you think it’s ok for kids and people in general to be exposed to tent neighborhoods and things like open trash, human feces and needles on the street with the full blessing of the state government? 

No that is what you guys think.  Also have you actually read any of the previous post homelessness is also a huge problem in Florida and Texas which are Republican run states.  If anything the homeless problem in the USA is a perfect example why a two party state is terrible in solving any major problems its also why we don't have universal healthcare while the rest of the developed world has it.



thismeintiel said:
Chris Hu said:

Homelessness in the USA is pretty much a state issue not a national issue the last president that actually cared for the homeless was LBJ a Democrat.  As far as I know no Republican president actually did anything significant to reduce the homeless problem in the USA.

Why would you want the president to be some omnipotent ruler to control everything. That's not his job, not should it be. No, this problem in popping up in Dem controlled states/cities. Instead of fixing the problem, they are encouraging it by giving out drug needles and tents, decriminalizing hard drugs, and forming poop patrols to clean up where these people just shit in the streets.

Giving out clean needles is done to spread diseases among the general population not just addicts.  We don't live in your dream world where problems just disappear by ignoring them, most drug addicts actually come in contact with non addicts on a regular basis.



Chris Hu said:
sales2099 said:

Thanks for agreeing with me. California has been a Dem state for over 20 years. They are in charge of this. They have enacted policies that make it difficult to forcibly remove squatters. Don’t shift the blame to anybody else. 

Sure lets just do nothing about it and the problem will go away by itself that is the perfect solution for all problems by Republicans and right wingers.

So you think it’s ok for kids and people in general to be exposed to tent neighborhoods and things like open trash, human feces and needles on the street with the full blessing of the state government? 

No that is what you guys think.  Also have you actually read any of the previous post homelessness is also a huge problem in Florida and Texas which are Republican run states.  If anything the homeless problem in the USA is a perfect example why a two party state is terrible in solving any major problems its also why we don't have universal healthcare while the rest of the developed world has it.

You kinda dodging the topic and speaking on a macro level. We talking about Los Angeles having tent neighbourhoods. It’s unsafe, unclean, and worst of all, the Democrat government enacted policies to keep the status quo. Yes, forcibly moving homeless is not a easy task, but left unchecked it can really make a city look 3rd world. 



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sales2099 said:
Chris Hu said:

No that is what you guys think.  Also have you actually read any of the previous post homelessness is also a huge problem in Florida and Texas which are Republican run states.  If anything the homeless problem in the USA is a perfect example why a two party state is terrible in solving any major problems its also why we don't have universal healthcare while the rest of the developed world has it.

You kinda dodging the topic and speaking on a macro level. We talking about Los Angeles having tent neighbourhoods. It’s unsafe, unclean, and worst of all, the Democrat government enacted policies to keep the status quo. Yes, forcibly moving homeless is not a easy task, but left unchecked it can really make a city look 3rd world. 

I'm not dodging the topic I'm just pointing out the fact that Republicans aren't doing any better in solving the problem.  Also I'm guessing you never traveled in the US much most cities that have a population over 3K have areas that look like 3rd world countries regardless of who is in charge.



Chris Hu said:
sales2099 said:

Thanks for agreeing with me. California has been a Dem state for over 20 years. They are in charge of this. They have enacted policies that make it difficult to forcibly remove squatters. Don’t shift the blame to anybody else. 

Sure lets just do nothing about it and the problem will go away by itself that is the perfect solution for all problems by Republicans and right wingers.

So you think it’s ok for kids and people in general to be exposed to tent neighborhoods and things like open trash, human feces and needles on the street with the full blessing of the state government? 

No that is what you guys think.  Also have you actually read any of the previous post homelessness is also a huge problem in Florida and Texas which are Republican run states.  If anything the homeless problem in the USA is a perfect example why a two party state is terrible in solving any major problems its also why we don't have universal healthcare while the rest of the developed world has it.

If you look at percentages instead of totals, you will see the following Top 10 state and territory homeless rates per 10,000 people:

  • Washington DC- 94 (Democrat mayors since 1961)
  • New York- 46.4 (Democrat governors since 2007, most homeless are in NYC, which has had 13 Democrat mayors since 1918, compared to only 4 Republican mayors in the same time frame, and two of those 4 were closet democrats)
  • Hawaii- 44.9 (Has had 6 Democrat and 2 Republican governors since statehood, majority of homeless are in Honolulu, which has had mainly democrat mayors since 1969)
  • California- 38.3 (Even number of Democrat and Republican governors since 1965, but most of the homeless are in big cities like LA, which has been democrat controlled for 20 years now, and San Francisco, which has been democrat controlled since 1968)
  • Oregon- 38.3 (Democrat controlled since 1987, first state to decriminalize hard drug possession, that is really going to help with the homeless problem /s)
  • Washington- 29.1 (Democrat controlled since 1985)
  • Massachusetts- 26.9 (Has actually had mostly republican governors recently, but a significant chunk of Massachusetts homeless are in Boston, which has been democrat controlled since 1930)
  • Alaska- 25.8 (Has had mostly Republican governors since 2003, but the majority of the homeless are in Anchorage, which had a Democrat mayor when the homeless numbers suddenly spiked, a mayor who resigned this year amid scandal. This situation is particularly bad because winters are very cold in Anchorage and many of these are unsheltered homeless, many simply freeze to death and die in the streets in the winter)
  • Nevada- 23.9 (3/4 Republican governors in the last 20 years, but the vast majority of the Homeless in the state are in Las Vegas, which has been run by Independent Mayors since 1999, and Democrat mayors from 1975-1999)
  • Vermont- 17.5 (50/50 mix of Republican and Democrat governors since 1963. Homeless numbers have declined significantly here in the recent years, which is good)

It's also worth noting that 4 of the top 5 states with the highest numbers of unsheltered homeless are Democrat ran. Southern California and Hawaii are warm year round, so the high numbers of unsheltered homeless aren't quite as dangerous for them, but Northern California, Oregon, Washington, and Nevada do have cold winters, so they really need to do something about the high numbers of unsheltered homeless. 

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Chris Hu said:
sales2099 said:

You kinda dodging the topic and speaking on a macro level. We talking about Los Angeles having tent neighbourhoods. It’s unsafe, unclean, and worst of all, the Democrat government enacted policies to keep the status quo. Yes, forcibly moving homeless is not a easy task, but left unchecked it can really make a city look 3rd world. 

I'm not dodging the topic I'm just pointing out the fact that Republicans aren't doing any better in solving the problem.  Also I'm guessing you never traveled in the US much most cities that have a population over 3K have areas that look like 3rd world countries regardless of who is in charge.

Not taking the bait. We ain’t talking about the country. We talking about California, which seems to have a homeless problem on a more unique scale...mostly because it actually has the blessing of the state government. 

Post above mine seems to really nail it home how bad the Dems are running California in particular. 



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