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Predict which range Cyberpunk's meta score will fall in?

98-100 4 4.94%
 
95-97 5 6.17%
 
92-94 28 34.57%
 
89-91 21 25.93%
 
86-88 9 11.11%
 
83-85 5 6.17%
 
80-82 3 3.70%
 
Less than 80 6 7.41%
 
Undecided 0 0%
 
Total:81
SvennoJ said:
Shaunodon said:

Main page is slow to update, but if you check critic reviews it's at 91 on Meta after 38 reviews.

Lower than expected but still great. May be a struggle to stay above 90 though. Mostly disappointed Destructoid don't have a review out yet.

If most of the serious complaints are about bugs, it seems rather petty to dock it points considering the delays and crunch required just to get it to this point, with early patches/updates already planned and on the way. Given the work environment of this year, you'd think reviewers would have some consideration for that, at least. Seems almost opportunistic, as if giving themself a way to justify a low score for the biggest game of the year, and one of the most ambitious we've ever seen.

What about it is the most ambitious?

Btw FS2020 came out this year, certainly that's the most ambitious we've ever seen.

If anything it feels more like the game is getting a pass (like FS2020 got) since it will get better or they expect the day one patch to fix most issues.

Not sure why you're trying to make this a 'my game vs. your game' battle, but I clearly wrote "one of the most ambitious...". And there's no disputing this is the 'biggest game of the year' in terms of hype/expectation, if you're arguing that.

And when I talk about ambition, I'm not just talking about pushing visual and technological limits. There's so much level of detail they were attempting to put into this game, including and beyond the technical aspect. If you don't already see that and want to drive the conversation back to Flight Sim and VR, more power to you, but I'm not interested in indulging you.



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Today was just for reviews on PC - expecting the average to drop due to the performance on console systems - where a majority of people will play. They won't let any review site show footage or talk about the performance on those systems pre-launch. Will probably end up in the 80's. Hopefully next gen patches come out by early next year.



shikamaru317 said:
SvennoJ said:

What about it is the most ambitious?

Btw FS2020 came out this year, certainly that's the most ambitious we've ever seen.

If anything it feels more like the game is getting a pass (like FS2020 got) since it will get better or they expect the day one patch to fix most issues.

I think he means it is CD Projekt's most ambitious project to date. It was such an ambitious project for them that they had to double their dev team size compared to Witcher 3, and give it a year more development than Witcher 3 got.

Sure, however I doubt there are many studios that take on a less ambitious project as there next big title ;)

Anyway I read some of the lower scoring reviews (usually way more informative than the 100s) and besides the bugs the theme seems to be, lack of emergent game play, most of the world feels like superficial set dressing, nothing new (a combination of the all the best things from previous games which is always good of course), no real freedom to approach things differently or rather it doesn't matter all that much how you progress you character.

The strengths are the side quests, characters and general world building. As long as you follow the path set out by CDPR you will have a great time. However there is not much point to explore on your own or try out different things. So in the end, quite a linear rpg.

Eurogamer's early impressions also are a bit on the low side (after 40 hours of playing) mainly to do with the balance (which can be fixed)

The biggest shame there, so far, is that so much is locked away so deep in the skill trees. The worry is that you'll get too far through the story to fully enjoy even a narrow, specialised slice of what Cyberpunk offers, let alone the whole thing. For now, combat feels limited. The guns are serviceable, and melee is fun in a slightly sickening way, but very simple - think The Elder Scrolls, but even simpler: a weapon in just the one hand. The sense is I'm a good way into Cyberpunk 2077 but still waiting for its systems to really open up.

I'd say between the 30-hour and 40-hour mark is where it gets going, weirdly enough. I've already played a fair bit more since writing this - it takes a long time to earn the XP and $ you need to actually explore the game's systems, and I think they got the balance slightly wrong there to be honest, but more on that in the final review (probably).


That's a long time to get going, at least it's a lengthy game!



Shaunodon said:
SvennoJ said:

What about it is the most ambitious?

Btw FS2020 came out this year, certainly that's the most ambitious we've ever seen.

If anything it feels more like the game is getting a pass (like FS2020 got) since it will get better or they expect the day one patch to fix most issues.

Not sure why you're trying to make this a 'my game vs. your game' battle, but I clearly wrote "one of the most ambitious...". And there's no disputing this is the 'biggest game of the year' in terms of hype/expectation, if you're arguing that.

And when I talk about ambition, I'm not just talking about pushing visual and technological limits. There's so much level of detail they were attempting to put into this game, including and beyond the technical aspect. If you don't already see that and want to drive the conversation back to Flight Sim and VR, more power to you, but I'm not interested in indulging you.

Oh it's definitely the biggest in hype and expectations.
However you called it the most ambitious we've ever seen, while literally just months ago the whole world was released by a studio with only 140 people ;)

Anyway attempting is the right word.



Damn, two new generations of gamers accept bugged games. How about don't accept them, then maybe, just maybe developers won't do it anymore. Why do I like others have accept others low standards to the point where developers know they can because gamers accept it.



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I posted that I expected low 90’s, but I completely forgot about the shitty social justice nonsense that will bring the scores down. There are already reviews complaining about culture at CDPR and supposed transphobia being rampant in the game. Only a matter of time before dev crunch makes an appearance, if it hasn’t already.

It being at a 91 right now blows my mind. It must be really great.



Random_Matt said:

Damn, two new generations of gamers accept bugged games. How about don't accept them, then maybe, just maybe developers won't do it anymore. Why do I like others have accept others low standards to the point where developers know they can because gamers accept it.

I agree that these huge amount of bugs should not be acceptable. But it's just the reality of modern game development. Digital stores need to be shut down first before it will become possible to get rid of these problems.



 

Random_Matt said:

Damn, two new generations of gamers accept bugged games. How about don't accept them, then maybe, just maybe developers won't do it anymore. Why do I like others have accept others low standards to the point where developers know they can because gamers accept it.

Because of you tube and people like this
"Personally I’d prefer to play it bugs and all rather than run the risk of having the game spoiled for me, which is what unfortunately happened with the TLOUP2."



this game has incredible bugs it smells foul tbh they only giving select reviewers codes and they are not allowed to use thier own footage. i think when all is done its not going to be as good as people hoped



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Skeeuk said:

this game has incredible bugs it smells foul tbh they only giving select reviewers codes and they are not allowed to use thier own footage. i think when all is done its not going to be as good as people hoped

In other words, we only have a small budget to pay off a select few. Then it can sell like hot cakes before the truth comes out via the majority. (I'm just messing, but you never know)