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Did users that downloaded PS Plus collection without having a PS5 act knowing they weren't supposed to download it on their PS4 and are immoral?

Yes 11 57.89%
 
No 8 42.11%
 
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Shiken said:
DonFerrari said:

So like expected a bunch of PS4 owners have either asked for free or paid PS5 owners to claim the PS Plus collection and download on their consoles.

After a lot of PS5 have likely been permanently banned from ever entering PSN again and several PS4 accounts suspended without a due date, a bunch of them are claiming to not having done anything wrong and blaming Sony for allowing the practice and now acting to enforce the TOS.

A group of PS5 owners is looking to sue Sony over their ban.

This will be a great novel to follow.

Given how so many people have been screwed over by scalpers and prevented from even getting the PS5 to make the claim, I see no problem with someone maybe getting on their friend's PS5 to make a claim.  It is anti consumer for Sony to punish anyone that had access to a PS5 one way or another, and made a claim with their legitimate PSN account.

Now people selling the access online and making a profit?  That is another story, and they are using Sony's IP to profit for themselves.  Sony has every right to go after this group of people.

Are you serious?

It's in the TOS for a reason. Sony is being pro-consumer by allowing people to be able to sign into other people's consoles with their PSN and even sharing games with family. But when that thing gets abused it's a different matter entirely. And that's what these people are doing. And its easy to track, I am sure sony isn't banning EVERYONE that has done this but banning people that did it from PS console that has registered a suspiciously high amount of such transactions. Probably anything above 4/5. That's why they are banning the primary account on the console but only suspending the sub-accounts.



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When i get a new console. First thing i do is read the TOS. What a joke.

By the way i don't have a horse in this race. Don't have PS5 and didn't ask someone to redeem for me. Let them fight. Just so stupid of Sony.



green_sky said:

When i get a new console. First thing i do is read the TOS. What a joke.

By the way i don't have a horse in this race. Don't have PS5 and didn't ask someone to redeem for me. Let them fight. Just so stupid of Sony.

If you have to read a TOS to think that selling your account to 50+ people will get you banned..  you have many other problems.



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shikamaru317 said:
WoodenPints said:

The PS+ Collection should of been available to subscribers on the PS4 along side the PS5 from the start so people don't have to activate it through a PS5 console.

Wait, for real? PS+ Collection is PS5 only? That is super lame if true. PS4 owners are spending the same money on PS+ that PS5 owners are spending, they should get all the same benefits as PS5 owners. 

No.PS+ collection is not something you are getting just because you own PS+.It's something you get because you are a PS+ subscriber than own a PS5. The qualifier here is you "owning" a PS5.

Its not going anywhere, whenever you get a PS5, if you are still subbed to PS+, you get all those games anyway.



green_sky said:

When i get a new console. First thing i do is read the TOS. What a joke.

By the way i don't have a horse in this race. Don't have PS5 and didn't ask someone to redeem for me. Let them fight. Just so stupid of Sony.

Stupid of Sony?

Oh my...



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Bandorr said:
green_sky said:

When i get a new console. First thing i do is read the TOS. What a joke.

By the way i don't have a horse in this race. Don't have PS5 and didn't ask someone to redeem for me. Let them fight. Just so stupid of Sony.

If you have to read a TOS to think that selling your account to 50+ people will get you banned..  you have many other problems.

Yea telling a billion dollar corporation that they have issues for banning their new users is bad. Telling a fellow forum member, they have issues for pointing out the former. Totally okay. 

Rather have issues like that, then be someone like you. 



green_sky said:
shikamaru317 said:

Wait, for real? PS+ Collection is PS5 only? That is super lame if true. PS4 owners are spending the same money on PS+ that PS5 owners are spending, they should get all the same benefits as PS5 owners. 

Yea it is a selling point for a console that is sold out all the time. 

I hadn't tried to use it even though I have an active 12 month PS+ subscription. Now I find that I wouldn't have been able to use it anyway.

Well if PS+ Collection isn't available to PS4 users even though they're paying the same monthly/yearly fee for PS+ as PS5 users, I can hardly blame people for using friend's PS5 consoles to activate the Collection. It is 100% dirty of Sony if they are banning people that do that. If people are selling PS+ Collection access online, that is one thing, Sony is well within their rights to ban for doing that, those people are stealing money from Sony. But banning legit PS4 PS+ subscribers who are just using their friends PS5 to activate a service that should have been available to PS4 owners to begin with, that is wrong for sure. Hopefully there is enough backlash that Sony is forced to capitulate. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 04 December 2020

green_sky said:
Bandorr said:

If you have to read a TOS to think that selling your account to 50+ people will get you banned..  you have many other problems.

Yea telling a billion dollar corporation that they have issues for banning their new users is bad. Telling a fellow forum member, they have issues for pointing out the former. Totally okay. 

Rather have issues like that, then be someone like you. 

What the hell are you on about man?

Like are you being serious?

You can't be serious....



shikamaru317 said:
green_sky said:

Yea it is a selling point for a console that is sold out all the time. 

I hadn't tried to use it even though I have an active 12 month PS+ subscription. Now I find that I wouldn't have been able to use it anyway.

Well if PS+ Collection isn't available to PS4 users even though they're paying the same monthly/yearly fee for PS+ as PS5 users, I can hardly blame people for using friend's PS5 consoles to activate the Collection. It is 100% dirty of Sony if they are banning people that do that. If people are selling PS+ Collection access online, that is one thing, Sony is well within their rights to ban for doing that, those people are stealing money from Sony. But banning legit PS4 PS+ subscribers who are just using their friends PS5 to activate a service that should have been available to PS4 owners to begin with, that is wrong for sure. Hopefully there is enough backlash that Sony is forced to capitulate. 

So do you also want all games that are included on bundles for new buyers be included in your library as well?

Sony is doing a promotion to attract PS5 purchase by offering 20 games for free if they have a valid PS+ 

Loaning, selling, gifting access to people that don't have a PS5 is essentially either doing charitable work with another person pockets (in this case Sony and devs) or is profiting from other people property (which mind you is a crime).

Not sure why you are defending them though. Some have sold as much as 300 reclaim for PS Collection.



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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

My buddy is getting a PS5. Would it be ok if i were to logged into my account on his PS5 just to claim the free game and never download them until I get my own PS5. Then afterwards my buddy can then delete my account/format or watever, and then he can create his own account and claim the games after?

I just want to claim in case Sony decides to pull the plug on the collection before I get my PS5 years later.