dude
that's what I said..

The NES was a more casual console than the SNES, 64 and GC have been.

the winner of a console generation
is per definition the most casual console, has to be
(no matter how big it's hardcore base may be)

cause you don't sell 60 mill in the late 80's and 50 mill in the early 90's
or two times +100 mill
if you aren't the most casual console on the market,
eventhough you might be also the most hardcore, great chance that's also the cause,
but casual you are most certainly

I am so dang sick of the HxC vs Casual argument, I have beaten 189 video games and yet I don't have the time to devote to beating a 100 hour games anymore. Does that make ME a casual cuz i want a game i can play for 30 minutes to an hour at a time? Because i can bet that i can wipe the floor with all the idiot teenage so called "Hardcore Gamers". I'd like to see half of the hardcore crowd take me on in the original Metroid, Missle Command, Asteriods, Contra, Dragon Warrior, or Sonic 2. Most of them couldn't hack it.

I consider myself quite a hardcore gamer. Mario Galaxy is among my favourite games of all time. I must not exist, the.

Ajax said: Phendrana so SMG is linear like the NES and SNES Super Mario's you say unlike SM64 and Sunshine.. and you say ''Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not for the hardcore.'' so you're saying that the hardcore (the hardcore Super Mario gamers?), rather have a linear Super Mario than a more challenging and non-lineair Super Mario? yea right, I don't think so

 What? I'm saying Galaxy is for the hardcore gamer despite Riot's opinion. I didn't say anything about the preference of gamers in general. There's no logic in making that connection. Watch I can do the same thing to you:

You're saying the hardcore would rather have a non-linear Super Mario than a more challenging linear Super Mario?

yea right,
I don't think so

Who said that?

almost what I think, not the challenging part in the case of SMG,
'cause if you are an experienced Mario gamer,
you rather see the limitations of the NES and SNES version, despite those games being great,
be broken, and the game more challenging,

of course this is just what a I think from a gameplay point of view, but many here will disagree probably and say that I'm saying this like it's a fact, and I know it's not


but
don't forget
Nintendo is not making games for the it's old fanbase
who are older now and have more skill
it also needs to appeal to younger 'new' gamers

so it is understandable

but from a platformers point of view
Sonic is a game that needs to be linear,
because of it's speed
bringing the linearity back without increasing the speed of a game? ouch
I need to play SMG more to be able to answer that in it's particular case

Using Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart to prove his point is real pathetic on his part, no matter what happens Nintendo will make those games casue they are massive huge selling franchises.

Huge proven franchises selling well proves nothing, they sold well on the freaking GC for faks sake.

Wonder why he did not mention Metroid ? or something like Zack and Wiki.

- its funny how you all scream bs on any Sony or MS pr statements yet Nintendos are magically always right. Your being fed a big spin on things by a huge corps poster boy and your falling for it.

I don't know really. I have alot of respect for Miyamoto, but his comment doesn't really change my opinion about nintendo. He says they haven't abandoned the core market, which is true in some respects, but they are clearly detaching themselves. Look at the Wii, while there are still games considered "core games" alot of nintendo's own in-house titles I would consider borderline.

Super Mario Galaxy:
Yes, awesome game. Yes, definitely a revival of a dead genre. But in all honesty, I consider this to be the most borderline of all of Nintendo's big releases thus far. Okay Mario was never about a gritty story or mature themes, my issue is difficulty. It's not hard to beat this game, it's not even hard to hit 100 stars, 120 it gets a little tougher but nothing like certain Mario 64 stars.

Mario kart Wii:
While mario kart has always been enjoyed by both core and casual alike, this one put me off with the change in the way drifting works. Drifting used to be mildly entertaining, and intensely satisfying when you raced other component players to see who could pull the best lap times with their drift skills. The dumming down of drifting (and the relative ease now) puts me off Mario kart Wii. Still a great game, but you can't question it's changed for the casual market.

Zelda:
You could say I'm being nitpicky with this one, but did anyone find this to be the easiest Zelda game they've played on a Nintendo home console in a while?

Metroid Prime:
Probably the only one that hasn't changed to suit the casual market, but I fear that the lack of sales will be attributed to the core gamer nature of the game (to nintendo that is) and will influence design decision for later games.

Still, I will continue to buy these games and enjoy them, I'm just stating that miyamoto might be deluding himself a bit, just a bit though.