Talking about launch, not sure why he changed the topic to a year from now.......He comments come of as “we don't gaf about your launch experience, just gimme money”1st party exclusives is what gamers have come to expect in this industry Phil.

Actually, MS can (and will) do whatever they want with both their own home grown content, and whatever content they buy on the street. I would recommend you to not let that upset you too much because it is a reality you simply cannot change.

Actually, WB Games can (and will) do whatever they want with both their own home grown content, and whatever content they buy on the street. I would recommend you to not let that upset you too much because it is a reality you simply cannot change.

Actually, EA can (and will) do whatever they want with both their own home grown content, and whatever content they buy on the street. I would recommend you to not let that upset you too much because it is a reality you simply cannot change.

Actually, Activision/Blizzard can (and will) do whatever they want with both their own home grown content, and whatever content they buy on the street. I would recommend you to not let that upset you too much because it is a reality you simply cannot change.

All it takes is a simple change of the company doing the scumbaggery to highlight how silly your comment was. MS is just as bad as EA, or Activision/Blizzard, or WB games. The only difference is they have a marketing department that can play games journalists and gamers like a fiddle.

If Sony had jack-all to launch with we'd never hear the end of it. Yet this entire thread is nothing but PR spin, and Xbox apologetics. The fact of the matter is you need good launch content to get people showing the launch games to others, to generate discussion and hype, to keep sales strong throughout the year. MS' is going to lose sales momentum around April. Whenever a new console launches there's always a crowd that will run out and buy it games or not. Because of this Christmas console sales are pretty much guaranteed to sell out. But after that you need something to move the system. Phil knows this, but instead  of just admitting the obvious he tries to spin it anyway he can. Once that core early adopter audience is tapped out Xbox is going to be in a bind until they can get some new games. Nintendo has so many amazing games at this point that they can afford to have an abysmal year of new releases like 2020, and still keep chugging on. That's what happens when 2019 is absolutely stacked for Switch games releases. We got nearly two years worth of games in one in 2019 from Nintendo. Sony on the other hand is on what seems to be a never ending hot streak with quality exclusive content. Instead of traditionally launching a new PS console with barebones exclusive content, they have three amazing games coming out within the first six months. Eventually this reality is going to catch up with MS.

I would also add there:

Actually, Sony can (and will) do whatever they want with both their own home grown content, and whatever content they buy on the street. I would recommend you to not let that upset you too much because it is a reality you simply cannot change.

Last I checked Sony doesn't inject MTX into every one of their games like WB. They don't take beloved franchises and try to shoehorn them into pathetic mobile offerings like Activision. They don't buy up 3rd party studios and then slowly run them into the ground ala EA. Also, what content has Sony bought on the street? Or are you like others that can't see the difference between buying a studio that has almost exclusively developed games for your platform for 25 years, and buying a studio that was 3rd party multiplat for 14 years?

If Epic games had bought out Bethesda, and now we were all having a discussion about whether or not Bethesda games would simply be delayed on Steam, or never coming to Steam at all, the conversation would be completely different. Everyone would be on the same page that Epic games was doing a scummy thing. But because console warz, MS doing the exact same thing receives praise.

And just to bring this all back to the original topic. Despite their rapid pace of acquisitions MS STILL doesn't have anything for the new Xbox line until at least after April. Meanwhile Nintendo is still surviving off it's 2019 games blowout, and Sony has had the best launch lineup in the history of their brand.

Problem here is that Xbox Series X is not sold out worldwide. I am actually considering getting a Series X due to availability. PS5's are completely MIA.Maybe this is due to supply constraints but its likely that PS5 will just brutally outsell Series X. In which case I would say a marquee flagship first party title could have gone a long way in swaying some Sony fans to move over. Console loyalty is super fragile at the start of a gen when gamers are willing to make a shift.

You're still missing my point. Regardless of how we feel about EA, Epic, Activision, MS, or Sony; at the end of the day, they will do whatever they want with their property, so it really is not healthy to let that get too much into our skins.

And yes, Microsoft have had their biggest launch ever, and we don't even know what the ceiling would have been if they had had enough stock; which again, is already proving Phil right, regardless of how we feel about it.

The difference would be, if halo infinite launched with the system, people buying it would be showing it off to their friends saying you got to get one of these, it's awesome. Many you tube let's plays would be made, a lot of buzz and viral marketing to get the tier 2 customer group excited.

Instead we get, well it plays my old games better.

Doesn't matter at launch, does matter a lot for momentum. And true, what can he say. We fucked up, sorry.

Both Sony and MS bought studios. What each studio made before hand is irrelevant. To me going 1st party takes the dev off the market. They objectively aren’t expected to make multiplat games because we know it’s a simple matter of ownership. But a dev staying 3rd party doing exclusive content...that’s dirty. 

But there really is no moral high ground you can take as a Sony fan, especially talking about “damaging gaming”. Sony drove Sega out of console gaming. The beat Nintendo so bad that they will never return to traditional consoles ever again. All their consoles have to be underpowered and have a unique hardware quirk to remain competitive. Sony almost drove out Xbox until Phil convinced MS to back them. 

You talk about MS trying to monopolize the gaming industry and scumbag moves...look no further then Sony having a rich history of choking out competition. As long as PS has more marketshare, Xbox should be buying and buying and buying and buying until Sony doesn’t have anybody left to moneyhat and we can finally have some long overdue equilibrium. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Next thing I know you're going to tell me Atari's downfall was all because of evil, evil, Nintendo!

You think Nintendo and Sega's current situation is all because of Sony? Nintendo spent ten years pissing off 3rd party devs with NES and SNES era rules. Then during the N64 era they went with expensive cartridges instead of cheap CD disks, which pretty much guaranteed 3rd parties to jump ship to Playstation.

I absolutely love the Genesis/Megadrive, but let's be honest. It was Sega's only console to have close to half of the market share for a reason. Master System, Sega CD, 32X, and Saturn all made huge mistakes.

I hope you realize there's a difference between choking out competition by being a better company than them, and choking out competition by waving a wallet around. If I make a better product and my competition goes under, that just means I had a better product. If I make a product but sell it far below production costs in order to force my competition to sell at the same unsustainable price, then I'm engaging in monopolistic practices in an attempt to put my competition out of business. The hope is that I can sustain massive business losses far longer than my competition. Wal-Mart does this all the time with local businesses. They come into a town, sell everything for way the hell cheaper than it costs to produce, and then as soon as all the local places go under, they raise prices.

And sure, Sony engaged in a bit of this in the past. Pricing PS1 at $299, or putting a huge moneyhat on FF7 are two notable examples. But to just ignore the many multiple ways that Sega and Nintendo were digging their own graves? Wow. Just wow.