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sales2099 said:




sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:
sales2099 said:

Imo calling Bethesda a “poached” developer warranted my response. Like the acquisition was without honour or something. It was done with mutual agreement with a premium that is unheard of in this industry. But sure that dastardly MS “poached” poor and innocent Bethesda. 

So that’s where I’m coming from and I hope the mods see that too. 

As a 3rd party dev, Bethesda existed in the wild. Any gamer that wanted to play a Bethesda game could play it on their platform of choice, with the exception of Nintendo. But even then there are a few Bethesda games on Switch. Now, if MS goes through with Bethesda exclusivity they will have removed all those Bethesda games from the wild, making them PC/Xbox only. I'm sure Bethesda is more than happy to be purchased, but that's beside the point. If MS does indeed plan on buying up even more studios simply to spitefully keep them off PS5, then they are insanely hypocritical, and damaging to gaming as a whole. MS can do whatever they want with their own home grown content. If you made a game you have every right to sell it however you want. But trying to moneyhat 3rd party games off of PS5, simply because you want to monopolize the gaming industry is a scumbag move. Anyway, call it whatever you want. Poaching, Scalping, Extreme Moneyhatting. Either way it goes against their previous PR spin nonsense that "Exclusives are evil. Sony is evil for making better games than us, and then not selling those games on our platforms!!!"

Both Sony and MS bought studios. What each studio made before hand is irrelevant. To me going 1st party takes the dev off the market. They objectively aren’t expected to make multiplat games because we know it’s a simple matter of ownership. But a dev staying 3rd party doing exclusive content...that’s dirty. 

But there really is no moral high ground you can take as a Sony fan, especially talking about “damaging gaming”. Sony drove Sega out of console gaming. The beat Nintendo so bad that they will never return to traditional consoles ever again. All their consoles have to be underpowered and have a unique hardware quirk to remain competitive. Sony almost drove out Xbox until Phil convinced MS to back them. 

You talk about MS trying to monopolize the gaming industry and scumbag moves...look no further then Sony having a rich history of choking out competition. As long as PS has more marketshare, Xbox should be buying and buying and buying and buying until Sony doesn’t have anybody left to moneyhat and we can finally have some long overdue equilibrium. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Next thing I know you're going to tell me Atari's downfall was all because of evil, evil, Nintendo!

You think Nintendo and Sega's current situation is all because of Sony? Nintendo spent ten years pissing off 3rd party devs with NES and SNES era rules. Then during the N64 era they went with expensive cartridges instead of cheap CD disks, which pretty much guaranteed 3rd parties to jump ship to Playstation.

I absolutely love the Genesis/Megadrive, but let's be honest. It was Sega's only console to have close to half of the market share for a reason. Master System, Sega CD, 32X, and Saturn all made huge mistakes.

I hope you realize there's a difference between choking out competition by being a better company than them, and choking out competition by waving a wallet around. If I make a better product and my competition goes under, that just means I had a better product. If I make a product but sell it far below production costs in order to force my competition to sell at the same unsustainable price, then I'm engaging in monopolistic practices in an attempt to put my competition out of business. The hope is that I can sustain massive business losses far longer than my competition. Wal-Mart does this all the time with local businesses. They come into a town, sell everything for way the hell cheaper than it costs to produce, and then as soon as all the local places go under, they raise prices.

And sure, Sony engaged in a bit of this in the past. Pricing PS1 at $299, or putting a huge moneyhat on FF7 are two notable examples. But to just ignore the many multiple ways that Sega and Nintendo were digging their own graves? Wow. Just wow.