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Yeah.. ok Pachter. Cause you're always right on the money, right? XD

I'll never understand this weird obsession within the industry to get Nintendo to go third party, or (moreso these days) handheld/mobile only..



 

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Isn't it funny when some brain dead analyst calls a 12+ billion dollar company "not that smart". This might be close to the top the list of the dumbest thing he's ever said, and that's a long list of decades of stupidity. I don't understand how this man still has a career of failed predictions after what he said about Iwata. No intelligent or decent man would utter such non-sense, hearsay, and libel. It kind of makes me sick.




RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Alrighty, I thought it was around 2:1. But yeah it'd probably be a lot more weighted in favour of the hybrid if it was widely available, as a lot of people probably settled for a Lite simply cos they couldn't get a base model.

So did Pachter actually say that, that Switch would peter out by or be killed by the launch of PS5/XS? That'd be another pretty hilarious goof.

No, Pachter didn't make any statements on the longevity of Switch yet, but it's clear from the behavior of major AAA third party publishers that they had the expectation that Switch wouldn't be around for long; just think of EA and how quickly they moved to a Legacy Edition of FIFA for Switch. If Switch were to be a handheld only, no investor would ask third parties about home console games on Switch anymore, which in turn would make life easier for third parties.

What you can expect in the near future is the full return of the "next gen" moniker to refer to the PS5 and XSX|S only, so excluding Switch despite all three platforms belonging to the same generation. Pachter's statements are an attempt at another form of big segregation between Nintendo and Sony/Microsoft consoles, because what the game industry wants is that all these consoles are not considered to play in the same ballpark.

Analysis always has political content. In the Patcher situation, all the analyses are a political assertion. The AAA major players want to ignore Switch success, on a production scale. But the sales say otherwise, in an investor meeting, normally have anyone asking where the games for the Switch. The narrative only portable is a defensive movement against Switch AAA production. 



By now, I'm 100% convinced that these "predictions" Patcher does, usually about Nintendo, is PR/marketing for him. We only knew Patcher because of these outlandish claims, and it worked. So I bet that he says stupid things every 2 months or so in purpose so that everyone knows him and thus keeps his name known to everyone.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
By now, I'm 100% convinced that these "predictions" Patcher does, usually about Nintendo, is PR/marketing for him. We only knew Patcher because of these outlandish claims, and it worked. So I bet that he says stupid things every 2 months or so in purpose so that everyone knows him and thus keeps his name known to everyone.

Agree. And I'm also sure that he doesn't say bullshit to his paying customers, otherwise his firm would have long fired him. BS is for his non-paying fans and haters.
Also, outlandish statements could be a way to shake gaming companies stock value, be it up or down, it's variations the way stock market speculators earn most of their money, unlike long term investors.



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Nintendo doesn't play by the "rules" of the industry and that seems to fundamentally anger some people, hence why for most of the 21st century we've seen a constant flood of tirades about how they are doomed, should go third party, or otherwise should "follow the rules" set by the other big industry players.

Instead, they march to the beat of their own drum, which has led them to phenomenal success.



Pachter is going senile. He was always out of touch in one way of another, but he seems to be much worse now. The fact that he openly admits he doesn’t understand the hybrid concept is more than enough to see how much of an as-been he is.

Oh wait... to be an as-been, you first need to have been something...



Agente42 said:
RolStoppable said:

No, Pachter didn't make any statements on the longevity of Switch yet, but it's clear from the behavior of major AAA third party publishers that they had the expectation that Switch wouldn't be around for long; just think of EA and how quickly they moved to a Legacy Edition of FIFA for Switch. If Switch were to be a handheld only, no investor would ask third parties about home console games on Switch anymore, which in turn would make life easier for third parties.

What you can expect in the near future is the full return of the "next gen" moniker to refer to the PS5 and XSX|S only, so excluding Switch despite all three platforms belonging to the same generation. Pachter's statements are an attempt at another form of big segregation between Nintendo and Sony/Microsoft consoles, because what the game industry wants is that all these consoles are not considered to play in the same ballpark.

Analysis always has political content. In the Patcher situation, all the analyses are a political assertion. The AAA major players want to ignore Switch success, on a production scale. But the sales say otherwise, in an investor meeting, normally have anyone asking where the games for the Switch. The narrative only portable is a defensive movement against Switch AAA production. 

'Want to Ignore Switch Success'. 

That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying 'I want to ignore the PS2's success' back a few gens ago. Ignoring not just a viable market but a exploding one....

They didn't ignore the success of genre revivals: if they did stuff like Octopath, Resident Evil 7, and Crash New 4 wouldn't have been made. But whatever happened to the 'Publishers see the shiny new thing and want to be part of it' phenomenon that leads to battle royal, military shooter, etc saturation? 

Is the Switch not shiny enough?



The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?

KrspaceT said:
Agente42 said:

Analysis always has political content. In the Patcher situation, all the analyses are a political assertion. The AAA major players want to ignore Switch success, on a production scale. But the sales say otherwise, in an investor meeting, normally have anyone asking where the games for the Switch. The narrative only portable is a defensive movement against Switch AAA production. 

'Want to Ignore Switch Success'. 

That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying 'I want to ignore the PS2's success' back a few gens ago. Ignoring not just a viable market but a exploding one....

They didn't ignore the success of genre revivals: if they did stuff like Octopath, Resident Evil 7, and Crash New 4 wouldn't have been made. But whatever happened to the 'Publishers see the shiny new thing and want to be part of it' phenomenon that leads to battle royal, military shooter, etc saturation? 

Is the Switch not shiny enough?

From a business perspective it indeed does not make sense; third parties could be making considerably more money off the Switch's explosive success than they currently are if they put more games on it.

Hence it logically follows that since their neglect isn't commercial, it must be political.



KrspaceT said:
Agente42 said:

Analysis always has political content. In the Patcher situation, all the analyses are a political assertion. The AAA major players want to ignore Switch success, on a production scale. But the sales say otherwise, in an investor meeting, normally have anyone asking where the games for the Switch. The narrative only portable is a defensive movement against Switch AAA production. 

'Want to Ignore Switch Success'. 

That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying 'I want to ignore the PS2's success' back a few gens ago. Ignoring not just a viable market but a exploding one....

They didn't ignore the success of genre revivals: if they did stuff like Octopath, Resident Evil 7, and Crash New 4 wouldn't have been made. But whatever happened to the 'Publishers see the shiny new thing and want to be part of it' phenomenon that leads to battle royal, military shooter, etc saturation? 

Is the Switch not shiny enough?

If you follow The AAA majors and Japanese producers you can find many statements against Switch production. Besides the record sales. First, not hardware sales enough, then go to thirds party don't sell on Nintendo Ecosystem (ignoring DS,3DS, Wii, NES, GB, GBA, SNES), and the final fallacy is a portable and portable don't have AAA games.