Oh it's viable, as long as you are willing to spend the billions to make that the case. And MS endgame ere is obvious, its about game pass. They could have just as easily used these billions to subsidize (even more) the cost of the XSX/S, but they are instead spending it to bolster gamepas.

I think you are confused as to who has a walledgarden though. The garden MShas is just difrnt fromwht ou ma be accustomed to. But makenomistake, its also a garden.

No, I am not confused on the wall garden.  What I meant is that Sony only pushed PS Now for Sony systems.  Sony could have pushed their games and PS Now on the PC and invested into reaching every device that could play their games but they needed or wanted to protect the PS hardware brand.  Both Sony and MS and consoles in general are walled gardens and yes Gamepass is as well.  The thing is the traditional gamer that wants to own their games is not as huge as the gaming population in general and MS has come to the understanding that games want the abiity to play as much as they like for the least amount of cash.  With development cost going up and game prices, something like gamepass becomes even more appealing just like Netflix when it first started up.  The deep pockets is where MS has the advantage because in order to make gamepass a true reality, its going to cost.

I've got mixed feelings.

It seems to me that Sony is right, it is quite not sustainable as is, but the point is that MS is slowly creeping away from the console business. It's not like they don't want to sell consoles, they just won't care going forward. They're on the game business. They want to make you spend money and time on games. So the long term bet makes sense, particularly if this overcomes PS. If, and only if, PS owners start to move to MS, Sony will be locked inside with just console sales and their own game upfront sales. This could be a dire trap to get out. Again, if and only if MS pulls that off.

Once MS takes control of the business, stop investing too much and get a good cash flow, they can raise GP prices, they can display ads, they can create different GP plans, they can do whatever they want.

So I think GP as is, is still a MS investment plan, not a profit machine yet. And that's not sustainable forever. So, in case the market doesn't change and MS don't manage to take a good reasonable chunk of the market, GP will have to get more expensive and/or some publishers may opt out and/or kick off their own streaming services. At this point, MS might get in trouble.

Today, I agree that it's not sustainable, but in the future, it might work, particularly if it kills PS (I'm not speculating it will, but let's suppose).

So are we finally ready to admit Xenoblade DE is a remake?

Because if Demon Souls is a remake, so is Xenoblade.  Just gonna throw that out there because it is funny how many people have conflicting stances based on which game is in question.

Jokes aside, the game does look amazing.  I am curious to see if they stayed 1:1 with the original, or if they reimagined it to feel like a completely different game.

And unhappy GP subscribers can cancel their subscriptions should that happen. They can do whatever they want.

So it is in Microsoft's best interest to keep their users happy.

Never played Xenoblade or Xenoblade DE. Also can't remember ever calling it remake or remaster.

Edit: Actualy i played it on wii, but did not complete the game.

Never said you did, it was a generalized joke based on the whole remakester debacle earlier this year.  I only quoted you because you reminded me of it lol.

That would only be if MS was the only game in town but they are not.  Sony and Nintendo will come screaming and kicking but they will also come and Google, Apple and Now Amazon with their new service means the battle is still going on, its just not the hardware console battle.  Gamers will still reap the benefit when all these heavy hitters compete because each one will need to maintain price, content and services that cater to us to bet those valuable subs and keep them.

Oh, so it is the consumer scamming the 1.5 trillion dollar company... 

Thanks for clearing that up.

I believe in what he said. In the long run the games debutting on gamepass or "PS collection" will be "half-made" with promises with future updates.
No developer can sustain giving away every game they make for 10$ a month, its actually alot less for esch publisher.

So, in the future I foresee live services and games going heavy on microtransactions (like f2p) to help sustain themselves for being in a day one debut for a subscrition fee.