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Own a HDR TV. 26 54.17%
 
Own a HDR monitor. 3 6.25%
 
Don't own either of the above. 16 33.33%
 
*Escape button to the comments* 3 6.25%
 
Total:48
DonFerrari on 29 July 2020
John2290 said:
DPsx7 said:

Weap! Been some time huh? A@H isn't what it once was so I thought I'd wander over here for my gaming news.

I know what HDR is, just can't fit any of it in my room.

https://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/hd-tvs/all-tvs/sony-32-hdr-smart-tv-kdl32we613bu.html

Still too big?

Strange that it is 720p on a 32" HDR screen.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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d21lewis on 30 July 2020
GrahfsLament said:
d21lewis said:
I've had a 4K Sony Bravia with HDR since like 2017. I thought it looked great.

THEN, I got a 4k Samsung with HDR about a month ago. Didn't expect it to be anything special. Just got it for the living room since I wanted a bigger TV for the family.

The Samsung blew away my Sony.

After that, I've been going into the settings of both and tweaking them and the consoles connected (PS4 Pro and XBO X on the Sony/Standard PS4 and Xbox One on the Samsung). I honestly think the Samsung makes the regular consoles look better than the upgraded consoles. However, I did manage to change settings on the Sony that made my games look spectacular.

Since then, I've been playing and replaying older games and being impressed by what I see on both. And the HDR is nice. I just wonder if it's real. Like I can't see certain colors with HDR turned off but I can't understand why.

In my (albeit limited) experience, one of the strengths of Sony TVs is the level of audio and video customization in the settings if you want to spend the time there, digging through the menus. Most other TVs that I've encountered seem to try to limit how many settings the consumer can tweak. I suppose I fancy myself a sort of "power" user, so I tend toward custom Android roms, Linux, and devices with as many options/toggles/sliders as possible. Typically, automated settings are nice for me only as a starting point. Almost all of my friends, however, are definitely in the "whatever's default, I just want to use the remote for on and off and nothing else" camp. So, everyone's mileage may vary.

As to the bolded part, HDR expands the luminance range, so you're definitely seeing more shades of light and dark. If I recall correctly, the Wide Color Gamut standard is also present in the HDR profiles that the consoles use (it's definitely present in Windows 10 as well), so you would, in fact, be seeing additional colors.

I think the Samsung showed me what a good picture is supposed to be instead of what I thought a good picture was. I wasn't even using "game mode" because "sports mode" seemed to make things look more fluid and pop more. The biggest thing was switching to Game Mode and then enabling certain features in the video settings of the consoles, themselves. 

Thanks for explaining HDR, btw. I never really understood why TVs could display certain things but only if a certain setting was on. Almost like they were purposely holding back something just to give it to us for extra money. But you cleared it up.



d21lewis on 30 July 2020
DonFerrari said:
My TV and PS4Pro are always set to HDR, so whenever a game offer it I use and always look at the adjustment for every game. Also depending on the ligh condition I may increase or lower the brightness during the day.

Biggest issue for me with the Pro is that I'm a day one Pro owner and a day one PSVR owner. I LOVE VR but I have to disconnect it whenever I play a game that I really want to see in HDR.



DonFerrari on 30 July 2020
d21lewis said:
DonFerrari said:
My TV and PS4Pro are always set to HDR, so whenever a game offer it I use and always look at the adjustment for every game. Also depending on the ligh condition I may increase or lower the brightness during the day.

Biggest issue for me with the Pro is that I'm a day one Pro owner and a day one PSVR owner. I LOVE VR but I have to disconnect it whenever I play a game that I really want to see in HDR.

I know the feeling, I'm the same. To make things worse my hometheater doesn't have a passtrhough for 4kHDR so I have to connect the console direct to the TV and use the optic to send audio to the hometheather, but then that isn't really full spectrum 7.1 =[



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

VAMatt on 30 July 2020

I do game in HDR, but not great HDR. My TV was selected based on response time and price. It definitely does deliver a noticeable difference with HDR content, but I think it's really just above the line where Sony was able to claim HDR support. I think I will probably upgrade my TV in 2021 or 2022, at which point I will definitely be looking for great HDR performance. I have a 60" now, I would like something bigger. I'm thinking of going up into the 75 inch range.



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NyanNyanNekoChan on 30 July 2020

I picked up this: https://www.asus.com/uk/Monitors/PB287Q/ 4k monitor 5 years ago.

I'm pretty happy with it, other than the sound occasionally not working when I set it up so that the audio comes out of it's built-in speakers - which usually isn't a problem since I tend to use headphones, and the fix is a simple reboot. It's also a bit of pain in the ass to attach cables to the monitor too, since a stupid piece of plastic is partially covering the monitors rear end, forcing me to have to attach the cables at an awkward angle.

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GrahfsLament on 30 July 2020
d21lewis said:
GrahfsLament said:

I think the Samsung showed me what a good picture is supposed to be instead of what I thought a good picture was. I wasn't even using "game mode" because "sports mode" seemed to make things look more fluid and pop more. The biggest thing was switching to Game Mode and then enabling certain features in the video settings of the consoles, themselves. 

Thanks for explaining HDR, btw. I never really understood why TVs could display certain things but only if a certain setting was on. Almost like they were purposely holding back something just to give it to us for extra money. But you cleared it up.

Haha, I don't think I ever even give the presets a shot. For me, it's always straight to "Custom" and adjust from there :D I also will usually modify the "Cinema" and "Graphics" (or whatever the one geared towards non-gaming activities on computers happens to be called), save my changes as the preset, and flip the preset based what I'm viewing on the TV. And I definitely understand what you mean about "Sports Mode" looking more 'lively'. In addition to the "Sports" setting, my previous Bravia (2014) actually had a dedicated 'Football' button on the remote that was pretty neat and useful.

DonFerrari said:
d21lewis said:

Biggest issue for me with the Pro is that I'm a day one Pro owner and a day one PSVR owner. I LOVE VR but I have to disconnect it whenever I play a game that I really want to see in HDR.

I know the feeling, I'm the same. To make things worse my hometheater doesn't have a passtrhough for 4kHDR so I have to connect the console direct to the TV and use the optic to send audio to the hometheather, but then that isn't really full spectrum 7.1 =[

I feel for you. I was extremely lucky in that the sound system I grabbed about 3 years ago just happened to support both when I finally got a 4K/HDR TV. The PS3's, PS4's, and PC's support of 7.1 makes me cringe whenever I encounter the rare game that refuses to output beyond 5.1. I've also spent more time than I should probably admit troubleshooting older PC games like F.E.A.R. and Republic Commando to restore surround sound (since they rely on technologies that no longer existed by Windows 7 & 10). As I noted in a thread about sound systems, this level of positional sound has definitely saved my digital life many times. 



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DonFerrari on 30 July 2020
GrahfsLament said:
d21lewis said:

I think the Samsung showed me what a good picture is supposed to be instead of what I thought a good picture was. I wasn't even using "game mode" because "sports mode" seemed to make things look more fluid and pop more. The biggest thing was switching to Game Mode and then enabling certain features in the video settings of the consoles, themselves. 

Thanks for explaining HDR, btw. I never really understood why TVs could display certain things but only if a certain setting was on. Almost like they were purposely holding back something just to give it to us for extra money. But you cleared it up.

Haha, I don't think I ever even give the presets a shot. For me, it's always straight to "Custom" and adjust from there :D I also will usually modify the "Cinema" and "Graphics" (or whatever the one geared towards non-gaming activities on computers happens to be called), save my changes as the preset, and flip the preset based what I'm viewing on the TV. And I definitely understand what you mean about "Sports Mode" looking more 'lively'. In addition to the "Sports" setting, my previous Bravia (2014) actually had a dedicated 'Football' button on the remote that was pretty neat and useful.

DonFerrari said:

I know the feeling, I'm the same. To make things worse my hometheater doesn't have a passtrhough for 4kHDR so I have to connect the console direct to the TV and use the optic to send audio to the hometheather, but then that isn't really full spectrum 7.1 =[

I feel for you. I was extremely lucky in that the sound system I grabbed about 3 years ago just happened to support both when I finally got a 4K/HDR TV. The PS3's, PS4's, and PC's support of 7.1 makes me cringe whenever I encounter the rare game that refuses to output beyond 5.1. I've also spent more time than I should probably admit troubleshooting older PC games like F.E.A.R. and Republic Commando to restore surround sound (since they rely on technologies that no longer existed by Windows 7 & 10). As I noted in a thread about sound systems, this level of positional sound has definitely saved my digital life many times. 

My surround is considerably older, but well that is part of life and wanting the "best mainstream" you need to improve your electronics from time to time and usually whatever is old hold the rest down.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

VAMatt on 30 July 2020
John2290 said:
VAMatt said:
I do game in HDR, but not great HDR. My TV was selected based on response time and price. It definitely does deliver a noticeable difference with HDR content, but I think it's really just above the line where Sony was able to claim HDR support. I think I will probably upgrade my TV in 2021 or 2022, at which point I will definitely be looking for great HDR performance. I have a 60" now, I would like something bigger. I'm thinking of going up into the 75 inch range.

How many nits? I'm blown away at just under 2000 and I do lower it for some games when given the option, sometimes by half and It's still impressive. Is it the luminosity or the colour range that fails to impress you?

800 to 1100 Nits.  And, it is impressive. I'm just saying, I'd like even better HDR performance.  



CasePB on 30 July 2020

I have an HDR TV and monitor, both look okay at times. I guess it mostly depends on the game because some look better in SDR. Honestly for a lot of PC games I rather just use reshade than HDR.