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Should schools reopen?

Yes 9 13.04%
 
Yes but blended model 12 17.39%
 
No 48 69.57%
 
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NightlyPoe said:
gergroy said:

Dude, really?  Look at your posts again.  You are clearly an intelligent person, but you were not so careful as you think you were.  Look at how you phrased things throughout the thread.  Your careful words are the very young, what does that mean?  Very young can describe lots of ages.

There's really nothing to say at this point.  You're intent on trying to tell me what I meant, which I've got better things to do than argue about since I've got supreme authority on that particular subject.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Detention today is just one digit away, Winston.



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Not until we can be 100% sure the virus is dead.



Reopen with prudence and blended model.



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Stunning to see americans really are't afraid of Covid

It's a quite unique phenomenon

With over 2 million active cases you still want to reopen schools? You are setting your own country to have close to 10 million cumulative cases before the end of the year. Somehow people there aren't scared of the reality.



Education is critically important, so we should get government totally out of it. Then, individual schools, students, and parents can make the decisions that are right for them.

With that said, and since we do have government involved, I think schools should be open and parents and students should decide if they want to go the normal way, or a hybrid system.



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VAMatt said:
Education is critically important, so we should get government totally out of it. Then, individual schools, students, and parents can make the decisions that are right for them.

With that said, and since we do have government involved, I think schools should be open and parents and students should decide if they want to go the normal way, or a hybrid system.

Could not disagree more. Because it's so important the government definitely should be involved! We don't want kids to be brainwashed.

Sure the government can't be fully trusted in that regard either, but they're a lot more trustworthy than most parents and *shudders* religious schools.



Pyro as Bill said:
gergroy said:

Well... unfortunately there is quite a bit more cost associated with education than just paying the teachers... heck, my school spent over $50,000 on just paper last year... and that’s with every student having a chromebook...

You do have to pay for the building, support staff, supplies, lunches, district staff, technology, etc.  There is a lot more that needs to be paid for besides the teacher, education isn’t cheap...

Whoever came up with the idea of putting 30 children in a room stuck behind a desk and expect them to become educated deserves to be shot for the damage and cost they've done to society.

$50k on paper. So divide $50k by the number of pupils (1000-10000) and give them a $5-$50 voucher to buy their own paper.

It's almost as though a contract with the public sector will set a company up for life and make enough profit to dish out the occasional bribe.

Yeah, that wouldn't really work. I very much doubt they're just handing the kids blank pieces of paper.

That paper budget is on paper that's used for things. It's printed on, used for lesson materials, used for flyers, used as a resource in some classes, used for attendance lists and what not. Just giving kids vouchers and telling them to buy their own paper would barely make a dent in how much the school would still need to buy.

And yeah, a public sector contract is a very good deal to have. That's why they're so desirable. Although I'd say their best feature is their reliability. You can make a tonne of money with private sector stuff too, but those businesses might have ups and down, might move or might even just close down altogether. Get a public sector contract and you know it could last forever as long as you don't fuck it up.

Oh, and if you really want to profit off of a public sector contract, get a contract as an exclusive school uniform supplier.



What's wrong with online remote learning anyway if it is set up well? Adapt

Remote places in Australia have been doing it for generations (School of the Air), with educational outcomes as good or better than in-class lessons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_Air



IcaroRibeiro said:
Stunning to see americans really are't afraid of Covid

It's a quite unique phenomenon

With over 2,3 million active cases you still want to reopen schools? You are setting your own country to have close to 10 million cumulative cases before the end of the year. Somehow people there aren't scared of the reality.

Yep, over 2,3m active known cases.

Alot of american's dont have fear at all of it.
They think wearing a mask if worse, than the risk of getting covid/useing masks to reduce spread.

They still say that "99% of people are fine".

Reality is:
54% of all covid patients have lasting lunge damage.
76% of all covid patients have lasting heart damage (germany study resently published claims this)
(theres brain damage, testicle damage, kidney damage.. ect. Even if you get "well" again, you could have issues a few years down the road)

1% of that die (those that arn't "fine" but dead), out of 330 million people, is alot of dead people.

"almost a third of those in the test group (of 100) have scar tissue on their heart. Wich you don't want because thickening of the aorta can lead to
cardiac arrhythmia and decreased pump functioning of your heart for example."

*source : https://www.boston.com/news/health/2020/07/27/coronavirus-heart/amp

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VAMatt said:
Education is critically important, so we should get government totally out of it. Then, individual schools, students, and parents can make the decisions that are right for them.

With that said, and since we do have government involved, I think schools should be open and parents and students should decide if they want to go the normal way, or a hybrid system.

The problem of "let everyone decide by themselves" mindset is that you ignore (or just don't care) how much your decisions impact community. It's a straight-up derivative liberal philosophy that emerged with Adam Smith's (pretty outdated  even in economics) idea of "what is better for the individual, is better for the group" 

When half of population practices social distance and half don't, the half that practices are hurted by the ones who choose not. We will stay in our homes for longer, the disease will spread faster, meaning more costs, more deaths, until health system is saturated enough to make government starts another lockdown

As much China has a severe restriction of their citizens lives, we can see how a deep and mandatory lockdown extinguished the virus in a country of more than 1 billion inhabitants in less than 2 months

Sure we may not be as radical as China, but I'm totally here for some restrictions of individual freedom for the society well being. I don't understand why Americans see the concept of "freedom" as the most absolute, indisputable and non-negotiable value of human dignity. Yes freedom over your own (and the people around you) security and health. Freedom over the possibility to escape this pandemic as soon as possible.