I think it was a great showcase I would give it a solid 8.5 and if you add in the pre-show the score gets push to 9. People that are giving a score of 4 or less really need to look at what they are doing with their lives and why they just want to spread negativity.

Microsoft's narrative of Xbox has no games is finally a thing of the past. I think Microsoft is really setting up a good foundation for the future. There will be so many new IPs on the Xbox consoles something for everyone if you combine both showcases. (Memory infinite, Call of the Sea, Chorus, Scorn, The Medium, Second Extinction, The Ascent, Everwild, Avowed, New spin on Fable, As dusk Falls, The gunk, Grounded, Tell me Why, Exo Mecha, etc.)

Microsoft at their next hardware showcase should really have a few limited edition Xbox Series X exclusive bundles. Cyberpunk 2077, AC Valhalla, Halo Infinite limited edition consoles with controller would really go a long way to push sales of the consoles. Lockhart could have limited edition Minecraft and Destiny 2.

The Halo Infinite graphic was somewhat disappointing but never the less the game looks so much fun and seems like they address all of our concern from Halo 5 campaign. The dynamic between Master Chief and the pilot is really going to be a captivating story. I love the direction and open style gameplay but with a halo spin to it.

Hmm you're willing to bet SOD3 will have a higher metacritic than the lowest rated Sony exclusive, and even then you're not entirely sure its a safe bet... That doesn't exactly sound like a vote of confidence in that AAA game lol. How about comparing it to GOW, TLOU, HZD, Spiderman etc? I'll make you a counter bet, though, and wager that SOD3 and Halo Infinite will both score lower than Days Gone 2 ;)

Hell yeah I'm using GP, I'd be crazy not too. I was curious and wanted to make sure I didn't miss out on anything and played the couple of exclusives MS does have. I'm not some fanboy who is blindly loyal to a specific console brand and I used to be a much bigger customer for MS. I did buy the OG Xbox, Xbox 360 and a shit ton of games to go with them. Current gen is actually the first time I didn't get a Xbox and that was simply because they had nothing to offer me. Which is pretty sad, considering I don't need much incentive to buy a console. Hell, I bought a Switch just to play BOTW.

If MS making $6 of off me for using GP feels like a moral victory to you, then have at it. But I would much rather see them try a bit harder to convince me why I need a Series X in my life.

Runa216 raised an interesting question. How would you feel if MS went full 3rd party? No more consoles, just GP which they would offer on ps5, Switch and PC. MS would make a fortune and you could gloat about how all the Xbox haters would be giving their money to MS. When you think about it, it would actually make a lot of sense for MS to go that route. So, would that be a good or bad thing for you?

Undead Labs is unproven, this is their first AAA title. Logic dictates to not over expect anything but I think it’s fair to hope for high 70s/ low 80s. Plenty AAA games fall within that window even PS IPs. 

Hey in this regard, you do you. If you are compelled to stir the pot against Xbox but play their games at the same time that tells me MS doing something right. It’s not a moral victory it’s an observation that someone who isn’t particularity fond of the Xbox brand is giving their money but especially time to it. 

Series X appeals to console gamers. Their studios, services and hardware appeal to people looking between the big 3. If you have a upgraded PC even someone like me will have a hard time convincing you to get a console when their games are day and date with PC. But that’s the point...they making customers out of people that traditionally  have no motivation to invest in Xbox. From my point of view, you turn on your Windows PC, open your dedicated Xbox/Game Pass app on the home screen, and spend time playing Xbox games...you don’t need a console. You all ready deeply ingrained within MS.

That scenario to me isn’t locked to just MS. Sony can just as much benefit if they go full 3rd party. PS Now is available on PC and could just as easily be available on competing platforms. And their games are slowly coming to PC stores. Hardware is never where the money comes from in gaming. Personally, I’d just build a gaming PC. I’m not very fond of PS hardware and features. 

71 is not a bad score and the game the "being the lowest rated Sony exclusive" have no value here since it's still the most fitted games to compare to SOD and it also a good game and well appreciated from fans. Also Bend Studio is twice the size of Undead labs, so if undead labs can produce a game that is better received by critics it's still something. 

That doesn't exactly sound like a vote of confidence in that AAA game: Many AAA were shown at the show, SOD3 ain't one of them. you can't produce AAA title with ~60 employees.

If MS making $6 of off me for using GP feels like a moral victory to you, then have at it. A single subscription certainly does not constitute a victory, but you seems to thinl you're alone in this situation. There's more likely hundreds of thousands (and I'm one of them too) in the same situation and this certainly constitute a victory. 

How would you feel if MS went full 3rd party? For me it would feel like a loss of an essential competition nothing more. And by the way it would also made a lot of sense for Sony and Nintendo to go that route financially but this has close to 0 chance of happening in the near future. I would be happy though as gamers would end winning a lot. 

I think the bold sumirises your post 100%. This only seems interestingng if your already into the Holy Trinity and after the period expires we have mothing to go on as we saw nothing. I really dont any need to purchase a series x for the forseable future.

I think that there could be no worse offender than anthem. 

Wow. We are back to waiting. I know your upset at runa and fell insulted but he is right. There seems no limited amount of beating You are willing to take for You to stop defending this company. You are now claiming that after all theese years of disappointment and overpromising we still need 2 more years of waiting. Because 7 wasnot enough. And I would argue 10 becasue the end of the 360 was absolute trash in my opinion.

The worst part is that no one is telling xbox fans to stop buying the product and enjoy it and suport and all that. Just demand from MS not to be treated like trash and maybe they will listen. As things stand now they know there is not limit to the punishment fans will take.

~Thread Banned.

Yes yes Xbox fans have been treated like trash. Good to see Xbox discussion is as quality as ever here lol

Well, who knows. Maybe SOD3 will turn out great, it's just that we can't really say. All we have is their current track record and it isn't very good. The thing is that we can't really predict anything from what we've seen so far. Can Playground make a RPG to rival the Witcher? I dunno, if Polyphony was making it, I would also have my doubts until I'd see some tangible gameplay footage. Will Avow be the next Skyrim, or is it something like Outer Worlds in a medieval setting? Its just a lot of question marks. 

I have nothing against the Xbox brand, it's just that I'm a lot more skeptical than you based on MS's historical track-record of poor decision making. I was a real 360 guy before they went all crazy on us with Kinect. I didn't sulk about it. I was just disappointed, sold my 360 and stuck with Sony and pc ever since. When they announced Series X I was super excited about the specs alone. All they had to do to win me back over is show me 1 AAA exclusive that shows what the thing can do. Unfortunately, it just don't seem they can. Not because it isn't an amazing piece of kit or that MS's studios suck, its because they are again looking past the core console market, because its not a big enough market for them.

Imo if MS would go full 3rd party, nothing would be affected. They would be rolling out the exact same games we'll be getting now, games designed to scale up and down a family of devices so we can all play them. The reason why I wouldn't want Sony to do it is because they are doing a traditional hard reset. If Sony is so excited about their SSD tech, I want to see them make ps5 games that take full advantage of it, and clearly show why they couldn't run on lesser hardware, let alone the ps4. 

I do agree that Sony hasn't quite done that yet, but that's mostly because they didn't show a lot of gameplay footage. However, I am 100% sure that they will when we'll get a full gameplay reveal of HZW, Spider Man and we'll hopefully see GOW2 in August. Maybe that sound extremely biased but that is only because Sony has earned my trust by consistently delivering quality stuff.