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I also saw many user reviews bombing the game simply because Ellie is gay and in a gay couple with another girl, hence decrying the whole game as gay, woke, sjw pandering, leftist fantasy, and things like that.



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J3MD313 said:
StokedUp said:

Do these people truly think that gMe scores are all that watter in the world, it hilarious that they actually take their time out to write a review to give it a low score just to bring the score down all because its not on their console of choice. 

Meta just needs to remove the whole user review thing because while most people do realise what's happening here, there actually will be peollnout there that may be swayed by the user review average score. 

But seriously these people need to get a life, their lives must be so dull and boring to want to take the time out to do this. Funny people. 

This right here is just further proof that this game has been trashed online by  majority of people who have pathetic level of fanboy agenda and has very little to do with the protagonist being gay. 

Seriously and were supposed to believed random blogs, random online dwellers now that all the high scores are paid reviews and that the 0 user scores are from the real "fans" that thinks the game is the worst of the worst not even functional game? "Real fans" who got a a list of all xbox games rated 10.....get real.

Fanboyism at its peak, grown men/women going through all this just to destroy a game that a lot of people put so much passion and time to make because it's not playable on the plastic box they purchased.

Absolutely disgusting. 

Why did you group them together? Xbox trolls are not the main cause, though I will not deny their contributions. There’s just as many if not more positive reviews from people who liked it. 

You aren’t even open to the possibility that the majority are people who liked LOU1? People are allowed to feel divided on the direction of the story and characters, on top of who you play as. The ending is not universally praised either (where as review copies werent the whole game people based their review on).  



 

 

Bofferbrauer2 said:
I also saw many user reviews bombing the game simply because Ellie is gay and in a gay couple with another girl, hence decrying the whole game as gay, woke, sjw pandering, leftist fantasy, and things like that.

That’s a shame. They will do nothing but take up the headlines and spotlight instead of those who legitimately feel divided. It’s sucks that there can’t be a constructive dialogue if everybody just assumes all the haters are just anti lgbt. 



 

 

sales2099 said:
J3MD313 said:

This right here is just further proof that this game has been trashed online by  majority of people who have pathetic level of fanboy agenda and has very little to do with the protagonist being gay. 

Seriously and were supposed to believed random blogs, random online dwellers now that all the high scores are paid reviews and that the 0 user scores are from the real "fans" that thinks the game is the worst of the worst not even functional game? "Real fans" who got a a list of all xbox games rated 10.....get real.

Fanboyism at its peak, grown men/women going through all this just to destroy a game that a lot of people put so much passion and time to make because it's not playable on the plastic box they purchased.

Absolutely disgusting. 

Why did you group them together? Xbox trolls are not the main cause, though I will not deny their contributions. There’s just as many if not more positive reviews from people who liked it. 

You aren’t even open to the possibility that the majority are people who liked LOU1? People are allowed to feel divided on the direction of the story and characters, on top of who you play as. The ending is not universally praised either (where as review copies werent the whole game people based their review on).  

Wait wait, are you claiming that the review copies just didn't have the back half of the game? My understanding was that they weren't allowed to discuss the back half in their review but they were still allowed to play that part of the game. 

Btw, not that weird of a request. Even as an amateur video game reviewer we got some review copies that came with the stipulation we not discuss story details beyond a certain point. Would have to look through my review list to try and remember which game specifically. 



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Torillian said:
sales2099 said:

Why did you group them together? Xbox trolls are not the main cause, though I will not deny their contributions. There’s just as many if not more positive reviews from people who liked it. 

You aren’t even open to the possibility that the majority are people who liked LOU1? People are allowed to feel divided on the direction of the story and characters, on top of who you play as. The ending is not universally praised either (where as review copies werent the whole game people based their review on).  

Wait wait, are you claiming that the review copies just didn't have the back half of the game? My understanding was that they weren't allowed to discuss the back half in their review but they were still allowed to play that part of the game. 

Btw, not that weird of a request. Even as an amateur video game reviewer we got some review copies that came with the stipulation we not discuss story details beyond a certain point. Would have to look through my review list to try and remember which game specifically. 

No that’s what I meant. That their score could only be based on the first half right? That was my understanding. It’s not a weird request, but it’s the second half moments of the game that are largely responsible for the divisive aspects. 



 

 

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sales2099 said:
Torillian said:

Wait wait, are you claiming that the review copies just didn't have the back half of the game? My understanding was that they weren't allowed to discuss the back half in their review but they were still allowed to play that part of the game. 

Btw, not that weird of a request. Even as an amateur video game reviewer we got some review copies that came with the stipulation we not discuss story details beyond a certain point. Would have to look through my review list to try and remember which game specifically. 

No that’s what I meant. That their score could only be based on the first half right? That was my understanding. It’s not a weird request, but it’s the second half moments of the game that are largely responsible for the divisive aspects. 

No, their scores are based on the whole game, they just weren't allowed to speak on, or show, details from the second half of the game.



Angelus said:
sales2099 said:

No that’s what I meant. That their score could only be based on the first half right? That was my understanding. It’s not a weird request, but it’s the second half moments of the game that are largely responsible for the divisive aspects. 

No, their scores are based on the whole game, they just weren't allowed to speak on, or show, details from the second half of the game.

Ah I see, thanks for clarifying. That just creates more questions then answers. This really is like Star Wars Last Jedi with a clear disconnect between media and end users. 



 

 

J3MD313 said:
StokedUp said:

[Image which groups up 3 reviewers who are possibly people with a pro-xbox agenda, and some text to support it, stripped to reduce vertical space]

This right here is just further proof that this game has been trashed online by  majority of people who have pathetic level of fanboy agenda and has very little to do with the protagonist being gay. 

Seriously and were supposed to believed random blogs, random online dwellers now that all the high scores are paid reviews and that the 0 user scores are from the real "fans" that thinks the game is the worst of the worst not even functional game? "Real fans" who got a a list of all xbox games rated 10.....get real.

Fanboyism at its peak, grown men/women going through all this just to destroy a game that a lot of people put so much passion and time to make because it's not playable on the plastic box they purchased.

Absolutely disgusting. 

My friend, go on the link I posted earlier and look at the reviews. Nearly all of them describe issues that make direct references to the game content. These people needed to buy the game and play it to make such a review, something I doubt a person with a pro-xbox agenda would do. Because it requires that they support a Sony studio with time & money.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-part-ii/user-reviews

To give you a sense of what's there, here is the first user review when ordered by helpfulness (default).

Spoiler!

It breaks my heart to write this, but I really did not expect such a poor story after all these years of waiting. While there were a few genuinely good moments, majority of game filled up with plot holes. It just took elements of what worked for the first game without understanding what made them compelling. It seems like this game was done by other studio, but its not!!. The basic gameplay has stayed the same (for better or worse), environment puzzles are almost gone. So remove story from the table and you are left with the shallow gameplay that will have you looking for some other game.

Here are some others:

Be reassured that while there are a minority of people who might be acting with an agenda, and that's sad, it seems like the mass of reviews are from people who bought and played the game. Don't let someone who groups a handful of bad reviewers into one image mislead you, because then the person who constructed the image would be acting with a pro-sony agenda, and that would be just as bad if not worse because it's misleading. I'm not referring to StokedUp but to the person who constructed that image.

Be vigilant of the information you are being told, some seeks to divide people instead of uniting them for a cause. To demonstrate what I mean, console wars never came up with a nearly identical issue with Star Wars The Last Jedi, because in film that doesn't happen as much. Sure there are fans of Star Trek and Star Wars and some of both, but nobody blamed the low user score of The Last Jedi on fans of Star Trek, it wouldn't make sense.

Focus on the game, what made you love it, what made you not so much. And if you had an issue with something, don't be shy to say so if there is an issue. Whether you post a review or not is your personal choice, but don't let the companies ever dictate your preferences. I hated what they did to Star Wars, and I personally will certainly voice my discontent over it. The visuals were great, the new characters showed promise, but in the end the content fell flat and treated my beloved characters with contempt, and I was angry that they disrespected something I loved, in the name of an agenda or of Subverted Expectations, that lame word they use to justify uselessly killing characters we love to promote most-likely a feminist, anti white man agenda. If a character makes sense with a certain aspect, then great. But here, things are being designed from the ground up to further that agenda, an so the quality of the universe we are plunged into suffers for it. I only read about TLOUII, but I saw what happened to Star Wars so I understand if fans of the game are upset, and I think you should too. You should get away from pointing fingers at fans of other consoles and look at the actual probable root of the problem: that corporations are meddling into creative art, games and movies, and it's really nasty.

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Angelus said:
sales2099 said:

No that’s what I meant. That their score could only be based on the first half right? That was my understanding. It’s not a weird request, but it’s the second half moments of the game that are largely responsible for the divisive aspects. 

No, their scores are based on the whole game, they just weren't allowed to speak on, or show, details from the second half of the game.

Though that comes with it's own can of worms, as one reviewer noted. As in, if they had had a game-breaking bug or something along those lines somewhere in the second half of the game, they would not have been able to report on it in their reviews due to this total embargo on the latter part of the game.



Hiku said:

Ah, the 'in general' of bad writing that people who have already played the game have pointed out.
My mistake. Next time I won't judge a story after I experience it, but rather after reading opinions devoid of any context.

Also, you said that 'for some reason' I didn't have the same opinion as you on the story I had barely just started.
I'll be sure to express the same opinion as you next time.

Yeah, you can do that if you want, or still like it regardless of bad writing

You have your own opinion regardless. I never said you had to express one like mine, but the user reviews are telling in the end.