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eva01beserk on 03 December 2020
Shiken said:
src said:

Stalker 2, Warhammer, The Medium, PSO2 are all multi-platform. D6 is already coming to PS4, MHR+Stories and OT are on PC. Bayonetta is treated like a 1st party IP, a la Demons Souls or Bloodborne.

So you're left with SMTV, which will probably come to PS later down the line.

L M A O

All that, XSX + PC + SW just to get what most get on a single platform: PS4/5. Proves my point.

What are you on about?  You created two lists that contrast eachother to make them look bloated due to most games either releasing on either Switch or XSX as well, then you pull rumors into the discussion as if they are fact, and now you throw simple math out of the window with a "XSX+PC+SW to beat PS5" claim?

The only thing this exchange is proving is how diluted and hypocritical your points are.  It is clear that this will go no where, so it is not worth my time.  The way you backpeddal and try to spin everything pretty much takes away any credibility you may have had on the topic anyway.

"D6 already coming to PS4"

And as for this, I guess you live in Japan and/or speak it fluently?  Otherwise you will need a Switch to play this game properly.

When the topic is "ps5 will get games xbox wont" Its not an argument to say then ill play switch + pc + xbox. its PS vs Xbox. 



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Cerebralbore101 on 03 December 2020

     Oh man, this thread got interesting since the last time I checked in. The idea of gamepass having a negative effect on 3rd party content for Xbox reminds me of the GameCube's "3rd party problem". People used to argue that Gamecube didn't get many 3rd party games because publishers knew that Nintendo fans only bought Nintendo games. The new version of this argument is that publishers know that Xbox fans don't buy games. They just wait for Gamepass releases. 

     The thing is that Gamecube didn't really have that big of a 3rd party problem. And if it did, then the OG Xbox had that issue as well. I mean, the only really big 3rd party multiplat games that Gamecube never got  were Psychonauts, MGS2, Mercenaries, The Warriors, Hitman 2, Silent Hill 2, Indigo Prophecy, Def Jam, Psy-Ops, Baldur's Gate DA, Fight Night Round 3, TimeSplitters Future Perfect, Need for Speed Underground, Star Wars Battlefront I and II, Metal Arms, Tomb Raider Legend, and Battlefield II.

Wait... that's a lot of games. And I skipped over the multiple racing games. Damn. I think GC had a 3rd party problem you guys...

This does not bode well for Series X/S.

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Shiken on 03 December 2020
eva01beserk said:
Shiken said:

What are you on about?  You created two lists that contrast eachother to make them look bloated due to most games either releasing on either Switch or XSX as well, then you pull rumors into the discussion as if they are fact, and now you throw simple math out of the window with a "XSX+PC+SW to beat PS5" claim?

The only thing this exchange is proving is how diluted and hypocritical your points are.  It is clear that this will go no where, so it is not worth my time.  The way you backpeddal and try to spin everything pretty much takes away any credibility you may have had on the topic anyway.

"D6 already coming to PS4"

And as for this, I guess you live in Japan and/or speak it fluently?  Otherwise you will need a Switch to play this game properly.

When the topic is "ps5 will get games xbox wont" Its not an argument to say then ill play switch + pc + xbox. its PS vs Xbox. 

Good thing that isn't the topic then, because last I checked the thread was about PS5 getting more 3rd party exclusives than PS4.  Fact of the matter is that if a game is on Switch/PS5 but not XSX, it is not a 3rd party PS5 exclusive like SRC claimed.  Likewise if a game is on PS5/XSX, guess what...still not a PS5 exclusive.

When you don't even know what the topic is about, you might want to read what the title of the thread is.  When determining what a PS5 exclusive is or isn't, it's not an argument to try to isolate it to PS vs XBox.

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eva01beserk on 03 December 2020
Shiken said:
eva01beserk said:

When the topic is "ps5 will get games xbox wont" Its not an argument to say then ill play switch + pc + xbox. its PS vs Xbox. 

Good thing that isn't the topic then, because last I checked the thread was about PS5 getting more 3rd party exclusives than PS4.  Fact of the matter is that if a game is on Switch/PS5 but not XSX, it is not a 3rd party PS5 exclusive like SRC claimed.  Likewise if a game is on PS5/XSX, guess what...still not a PS5 exclusive.

When you don't even know what the topic is about, you might want to read what the title of the thread is.  When determining what a PS5 exclusive is or isn't, it's not an argument to try to isolate it to PS vs XBox.

you are right my good sir. thread has been dead a while I should have read back.

No Matter, argument stands. if you need to add all 3 competitors to play what one has to offer, i would say its still not a valid argument. 



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MasonADC on 03 December 2020
eva01beserk said:
MasonADC said:

This doesn’t make any sense. Why would you isolate a big user base?

Exactly. they wouldn't. the point is that if they dont become a big user base they will be neglected. If these sales chartz are any bit accurate, its looking like the ps5 is leaving the xbox duo behind already.  

60 million is a big user base, no matter how much bigger the ps5 is. 



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B6a6es on 04 December 2020
Cerebralbore101 said:

    

     The thing is that Gamecube didn't really have that big of a 3rd party problem. And if it did, then the OG Xbox had that issue as well. I mean, the only really big 3rd party multiplat games that Gamecube never got  were Psychonauts, MGS2, Mercenaries, The Warriors, Hitman 2, Silent Hill 2, Indigo Prophecy, Def Jam, Psy-Ops, Baldur's Gate DA, Fight Night Round 3, TimeSplitters Future Perfect, Need for Speed Underground, Star Wars Battlefront I and II, Metal Arms, Tomb Raider Legend, and Battlefield II.


And No GTA as well.



Peh on 04 December 2020
eva01beserk said:
Shiken said:

Good thing that isn't the topic then, because last I checked the thread was about PS5 getting more 3rd party exclusives than PS4.  Fact of the matter is that if a game is on Switch/PS5 but not XSX, it is not a 3rd party PS5 exclusive like SRC claimed.  Likewise if a game is on PS5/XSX, guess what...still not a PS5 exclusive.

When you don't even know what the topic is about, you might want to read what the title of the thread is.  When determining what a PS5 exclusive is or isn't, it's not an argument to try to isolate it to PS vs XBox.

you are right my good sir. thread has been dead a while I should have read back.

No Matter, argument stands. if you need to add all 3 competitors to play what one has to offer, i would say its still not a valid argument. 

Since no one has all to offer, it's not a valid argument to begin with.



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Shiken on 04 December 2020
eva01beserk said:
Shiken said:

Good thing that isn't the topic then, because last I checked the thread was about PS5 getting more 3rd party exclusives than PS4.  Fact of the matter is that if a game is on Switch/PS5 but not XSX, it is not a 3rd party PS5 exclusive like SRC claimed.  Likewise if a game is on PS5/XSX, guess what...still not a PS5 exclusive.

When you don't even know what the topic is about, you might want to read what the title of the thread is.  When determining what a PS5 exclusive is or isn't, it's not an argument to try to isolate it to PS vs XBox.

you are right my good sir. thread has been dead a while I should have read back.

No Matter, argument stands. if you need to add all 3 competitors to play what one has to offer, i would say its still not a valid argument. 

The thing is, you don't.  Look at what I posted and try again.  If you have a XSX/SW combo, you have twice as much.  Some people are simply in denial about that fact, and try to twist the facts to equal what they want to believe.  The entire premise of what I posted seems to be over your head as well, which is that the Switch ALONE or the XSX ALONE all seem to have their own share of 3rd party exclusive offerings equal to what the PS5 get.  Hell if you include indies the Switch ALONE has more.

I fact, here you go....the PS4 has a total of 3076 games.  The Switch has a total of 3176 games, and is only halfway through its life cycle.  So as you can see, saying you need a XSX, PC, and Switch to match the number of games available is a joke.  In fact, since Switch lacks a lot of multiplats, I think that in of itself is proof that there are far more 3rd party exclusives available than the PS4.

The X1 seems to have a total of 2659 games, which is lower than the PS4 but highlights my point about Japanese games.  The PS4 had far greater Japanese support than the X1, and by default got a lot of their games as exclusive because of that.  But given that the Switch owns Japan now, most of those exclusives are now/will become multiplat via the Switch, which will cut into the total count of 3rd party exclusives for the PS5 overall.  And before you even go there, the power game is not really played in Japan outside of SE and Capcom.  Throw in the fact that the XSX is also seeing more support from Japanese devs than the X1 did to bolster western software sales (see Tales of Arise and Nier Replicant), and that number is crippled even more.

That is not the point however.  The point is that due to Switch, the PS5 will have far less Japanese exclusives.  And when it comes to the west, no company is going to choose XSX or PS5 as an exclusive platform without a moneyhat.  This makes it impossible for the PS5 to have more 3rd party exclusives than the PS4 (the topic).

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DonFerrari on 04 December 2020
src said:

Another update:

Square Enix:

  1. FF7R
  2. FF16
  3. Project Athia
  4. Babylon

Capcom : ??

Atlus:

  1. Aegis 13 Sentinels
  2. Persona 25th anniversary project
  3. RE fantasy

Bethesda:

  1. Deathloop
  2. Ghostwire Tokyo

Konami:

  1. Silent Hill
  2. MGS Remake (Bluepoint)

Cygames:

  1. Gran Blue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening

Tecmo:

  1. Team Ninja game
  2. Nioh 1/2 PS5

FROM:

  1. rumoured game

Arcs System Works

  1. Guilt Gear Strive

SIE 1st Party Collabs (many of these are rumoured so take with a grain of salt)

  1. Arrowhead AAA
  2. FROM SOFTWARE Bloodborne Remastered
  3. Media Vision Wild Arms
  4. Kojima VR title (PT like)
  5. Firesprite (ex-Wipeout devs)

3rd party:

  • 16 JP games
  • 1 Western game

1st party collabs:

  • 3 JP studios
  • 2 Western studios

There are rumors of Street Fighter 6 also being exclusive on consoles.



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src on 04 December 2020
Shiken said:
src said:

Stalker 2, Warhammer, The Medium, PSO2 are all multi-platform. D6 is already coming to PS4, MHR+Stories and OT are on PC. Bayonetta is treated like a 1st party IP, a la Demons Souls or Bloodborne.

So you're left with SMTV, which will probably come to PS later down the line.

L M A O

All that, XSX + PC + SW just to get what most get on a single platform: PS4/5. Proves my point.

What are you on about?  You created two lists that contrast eachother to make them look bloated due to most games either releasing on either Switch or XSX as well, then you pull rumors into the discussion as if they are fact, and now you throw simple math out of the window with a "XSX+PC+SW to beat PS5" claim?

The only thing this exchange is proving is how diluted and hypocritical your points are.  It is clear that this will go no where, so it is not worth my time.  The way you backpeddal and try to spin everything pretty much takes away any credibility you may have had on the topic anyway.

"D6 already coming to PS4"

And as for this, I guess you live in Japan and/or speak it fluently?  Otherwise you will need a Switch to play this game properly.

LMAO stop. You tried desperately to downplay the notion that PS continues to be the only platform that is able to get such a wide selection of third party games by listing a list of games across 3 platforms, of which many are going to come to PS.

You seem unable to differ two key points:

  1. Playstation continues to get the best third party support in the industry. You need multiple consoles to match what a single Playstation has.
  2. Playstation continues to get many third party exclusives.

Out of the list I posted, potentially 15 games are full exclusive. 4 are timed exclusive and 2 are console exclusive.

After your embarrassing list of games that PS will supposedly not get resulted in a list of games PS is mostly going to get, I'm not surprised you have nothing to stand on.

Yes D6 is on PS4