What about the far right?  They strut around with their AR15s like they own the place. 

Seattle, they have taken over a whole area

Huh? Care to explain who you mean by that?

Ah yes, nothing more authoritarian than pushing out government influence and allowing for personal expression in the absence of a looming militant police force...

For those that aren't aware, in Seattle the "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone" (CHAZ) has been established. Essentially this was an area of heavy police presence and the use of tear gas and other avenues of force, and in order to de-escalate the situation, the police pulled out. In this vacuum, protesters have established a makeshift autonomous zone that is essentially allowing freedom of expression and protest without police. This is the absolute anarchy that ensued:

In other words, its pretty chill. I've been following it for a bit now and I'm interested to see what will happen going forward.

Sure the majority is likely good, 99%? not so sure about that. Definitely not 99% that is trained up to standards high enough to be dealing with the public in a safe, responsible and de-escalating manner.

And yes that's what we're saying, the leadership is at fault. They keep mounted police around in cities (for the nice tourist pictures) and send them into situations they're not suited for. I doubt the mounted cops are happy about being put in harms way with their horses.

Currently the police kind of is the enemy, doing more harm than good. An institution that allows bad apples to stay on and even protects them from prosecution is a big negative influence on society.

Not defending ANTIFA, as I believe their stance on meeting violence with violence to be something I am strictly against.

But they also wouldn't exist if Facism didn't exist.

They exist as an extremist to oppose other extremists.

It's all well and good to constantly lay the blame at ANTIFA... But the issue is an entirely political and systemic one in the USA that allows such extremism to breed to such extents to start with on both sides of the political divide.

Missing the point again. Why are they successful in recruiting (if they are, dunno). Doesn't matter what they are, police brutality and systemic racism provided a focal point for groups like that to exist and recruit. Fix the root cause of the problems and the symptoms go away (or focus on something else that needs fixing)


Here statues are now also removed and the naming of certain streets and buildings are reconsidered.

Sir John A McDonald, the architect of several genocides in Canada.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/their-time-has-come-calls-increase-for-removal-of-statues-linked-to-colonial-legacy-1.4979262
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/dundas-street-renaming-petition-1.5606540

In Edinburgh they want to update the description of the monument to Henry Dundas.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-52997858
The City of Edinburgh is proposing to dedicate a controversial 1827 Henry Dundas monument to those enslaved because of his actions. New signage will explain that Dundas was "instrumental in deferring the abolition of the Atlantic slave trade".

Dundas st runs through my town as well, 500 meters from my house. I wonder if they'll go as far as rename it all through Ontario. Dundas Street is a major historic arterial road in Ontario, Canada. The road connects the city of Toronto with its western suburbs and several cities in southwestern Ontario.

Indeed the badly behaving amongst them will always exist and if they do not fight this they will find another ghost to act out their hatefullness.

Not saying they all fight ghosts but would it matter?

This is why getting history in school, is of utmost importance. Those idots don’t exactly help up the American people’s overal intelligence score.

Precisely. We have schooling so we don't need to have statues of horrible people in our public squares.

That was what you were saying, right?