A police and military without oversight, with full powers and protections, is basically a core thing in Fascim.
This "protest" is about how police apparently can kill people (mainly of colour) and get away scot free, way to often.
Becuase they are protected (the system is rigged in their favor).

So yes Antifa is probably hopeing, just like the black community that real change, actually happends after this.
Blacks are worried about racism, while the antifa people are just worried in general for all (they dont want Fascim in the US). 
Its not a healthy society if police can go around killing people, without there being consequences for it.

The far right, and white power groups are hopeing, that things get so bad military comes in and gun down all the black people.
So they are out there makeing trouble, every bit as bad or worse than Antifa probably is.

Yet far right and white power groups, are often trump voters..... so in his speech Trump only mentions antifa, as some form of boogyman.

I bet you the "bad behaviour" you talk about, is far far worse from the other side of the fence (far right, white power groups).
(basically theres a mountain, behinde a molehill, and you keep mentioning the molehill)

Man, isn't is scarily funny how that definition of fascism sounds almost completely like the GOP/Trump? 

But the molehill that you think it is can be the mountain in this particular case so i can not agree with that,if this was a more right wing protest then i might have agreed.

Antifa does include a number of religious blindly fanatical people and also a huge bunch of selfproclaimed anarchists and whereever you have that you also get extremism and hysteria.

Strange that you post so positive about antifa but assume the worst most evil scenario from far right,the first is taken to a peacefull extreme and the other you can not make a more evil extreme reasoning about.The people in those groups might be closer near eachother than you think.

Antifa isnt the boogyman Trump wants you to think it is.
And no it really isnt a "mountain" but actually a molehill (ei. its impact on all this is probably minor).



"if this was a more right wing protest, then I might have agreed" - Immersiveunreality

Huh? you think, Antifa would be less active, or more peacefull if this was for a "right wing" cause (that goes against Antifa (anti fascism))?

1) Wouldn't you want someone to try and protest the US from a change towards fascim if that was takeing place?

2) Antifa cause's align with BLM in this case, they arnt trying to cause trouble or have the messageing turn to crap. They want it to go along peacefully and get real results, they arn't out to destroy america or something.  Basically your not thinking these things through imo.

I am so damn tired hearing Antifa is anti-fascist because of their name. They are violent against people who don't share they views, like when a conservative speaks at a college, this makes them authoritarians and no better than the so-called fascists they hate so much. And by the way communism is just as bad as naziism

Right? I remember the "lock her up" chants too, rileing a mob up, against his political oppenents.
Trump basically views himself as a dictator, and doesnt understand he cant just do everything he wants (why are there checks-and-balances in place?).
His solution to these riots is just to use overwhelming force, to suppress the people. Trump is more friendly with foregin powers and dictators than I can remember any past american president being. His political advisers, were associated with the far right, and white power groups.  He uses division, to rille people up. Remember the scapegoat? things going bad in the USA? its the mexicans fault! (nazi's said it was the jews). Lets build a wall, that ll solve all our problems.
Its all lies, sold to a gullable voter base. Has military spending ever been higher? than under trump, he opened a new space unit, bragged about missiles and their speeds.... hes def. for protectionism and interventionalist policies.

If the US didnt have any form of protections in place (checks and balances), he would be a facism dictator.
Hes going out of his way to replace as many people these places (that impose checks on his power) with his own people, that are all "yes-men" that basically never go against him. He rules with fear, no one is willing to oppose him (even if hes wrong or brakeing the law) because they ll just end up fired.

All his friends that break the law on his behalf, he pardons.
Hes a very differnt type of president than the US has had before.

What is communism:
A belief that inequality causes rise to conflicts. So the solution is that instead of a few rich elites owning everything, ownership is with the people.
The "working class" would have equal say, and be put in power. Basically state runs production, and the people decide on what is produced.
Theres many branches of it, so its kinda hard to say what exactly it is, when there is so many takes on how to achieve that goal.

"a theory or system of social organization in which majority of property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs."

(Lets take care of everyone, based on needs)


What is Naziism:
National(ised) socialism is from the "national socialistic worker's party" (in germany), it unifies itself under antisemitism, anti-communism, pseudo-scientific racism, and use of eugenics as its creed. The ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party, and the far-right groups with simular idea's and aims.
Nasizim is a form of fascism with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. Nazism subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of racial hierarchy and Social Darwinism, identifying the Germans as a part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race. It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a German homogeneous society based on racial purity which represented a people's community (Volksgemeinschaft). The Nazis aimed to unite all Germans living in historically German territory, as well as gain additional lands for German expansion under the doctrine of Lebensraum and exclude those who they deemed either community aliens or "inferior" races. 

(there is no society conflicts, if all of society is one, and the same. Kill & remove anything that doesnt fit)

I'm not saying on an ideological level, i am saying both of them are just as evil as the other

No they are not. Its stupid to say so.

Fascism, and a racal pure society that gets that way, by removeing/killing all other races.
Is not the same, as a society that tries to help every individual based on their needs, paid for, by takeing the wealth back from the rich & ruleing elite.

These are 2 very differnt things, and one is clearly alot more "evil" than the other.

In one, you would see the rich lose the majority of their wealth. The poor/middle class would be soooo much better off though.
In the other, you would see genocide and mass killings. Until your left with a racial pure society.

Yeah there was riots back then notice my second paragraph mentioning riots throughout the decades in USA.  I was talking about the nonviolent movement promoted by MLK Jr and other civil rights leaders.  MLK never promoted riots or violent response to police brutality they faced during their peaceful marches and sit-ins.

The numerous riots that happened in 1967 was a result from the community being fed up and being ignored throughout the nonviolent movement.  MLK basically predicted the riots would happen if society and lawmakers didn't act more quickly on reform during their nonviolent protest.  He however never encouraged rioting. 

Blacks have been protesting for a long time and have been mainly ignored.  If we cared then we would have enacted police reform in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s or 2000s.  Nothing changed though and if anything cops have become more militaristic.  I don't condone the riots and I don't like to see it happen but that apparently seems to be last option left for some people because shit hasn't changed.  Only now are more politicians saying oh gee we better do something legislatively now.

I perhaps overstated the effect of the nonviolent movement during the 60s because even the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was in response to the riots in 1963.  However the nonviolent movement did allow other races to join in on the cause.  There were many whites that joined the nonviolent movement in support of black rights. 

Change doesn't happen easy in USA just like I stated the occupy wall street movement was a complete failure.  Maybe if they rioted and burnt down wall street and a bunch of rich people's houses they might have gotten something more than the consumer financial protection bureau that is a joke now under the trump administration.