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Forums - Politics - Minneapolis (Town city) riots & civil unrest in other US cities.

 

The riots are...

Necessary / Justified. 10 41.67%
 
Unnecessary/ Unjustified. 12 50.00%
 
Other, comments, I don't know... 2 8.33%
 
Total:24
Otter on 29 May 2020
JRPGfan said:
Otter said:
The authorities are going to do everything in their to control the rioting, but will they do everything to hold George Floyd's killer accountable? The latter remains to be seen, and for that reason I don't really care to focus on the riots and loss of material property. Saying "bad looters" has no influence on peoples willingness to take to the streets but it does take heat off the original murder

It really doesnt. 
You shouldn't be happy to vent your anger at random people who arn't responsible for said murder.

Neither does looting, or setting cars and buildings on fire (which dont belong to the cop in question), do anything but hurt other random people.
Plus it goes against what the family of his wanted, and what the person himself stood for.

And 2nd, that cop isnt getting away from this.
He will be held accountable, theres just no way.

I'm not "happy" with the looting but that displeassure doesn't change anything or put pressure on anyone.

Its not a place i care to spend my energy, there's a much bigger task at hand that needs to be dealt so we don't end up here again in 3 years time. 



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Jumpin on 29 May 2020
Wman1996 said:
I personally don't agree with rioting or looting, but the people pearl-clutching (both pundits and politicians) are massive hypocrites. They're more than fine or dismissive with war crimes, imperialism, and bailouts for the rich and mega-rich. But the second people riot and loot (especially people of color) they lose their minds.
So I voted Other in the poll. If the United States was a nation that actually honored rule of law domestically and internationally, I'd firmly vote that the riots are fully wrong.

Good post.

It should be noteworthy that they didn't react to recent armed protesters who happened to be white.



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Jumpin on 29 May 2020
RolStoppable said:
sundin13 said:

I'll just copy/paste my post from the politics thread:

I think there is a much more important conversation to have about the role of black protest. We constantly hear "No, you can't protest that way" and then we don't see change. Kneeling during the national anthem is just about the tamest way possible to protest, but nah, it's still too much. I don't believe that rioting is is a positive way to express the anger you are feeling, but at the same time, we need to look at the conditions that lead to this sort of behavior. This is a result of systemic oppression.

To quote Martin Luther King Jr:

…I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.

So you are saying that black people should get stuff because they are protesting? If we give them an inch, they'll take a mile. Just look at the NBA where franchises already discriminate against white people by having a disproportionally high amount of black players.

*shakes head* Hahaha!



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vivster on 29 May 2020

Looting and laying fires is never justifiable. Not that I believe that the people who do that actually give a shit about protesting.



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vivster on 29 May 2020
John2290 said:

Fuck it, I changed my mind. Rip that city to shreds and pull the government apart. Do it in every city until the police serve and protect instead of this shit. 

Yes, getting attacked by angry and armed black people will surely soften their opinions and actions against black people in the future.



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Nighthawk117 on 29 May 2020
John2290 said:

Fuck it, I changed my mind. Rip that city to shreds and pull the government apart. Do it in every city until the police serve and protect instead of this shit. 

You silly anarchist.



vivster on 29 May 2020
John2290 said:
vivster said:

Yes, getting attacked by angry and armed black people will surely soften their opinions and actions against black people in the future.

Look at the video I posted below this comment. Fuck that shit. It's also now just a black mission for this to change, there are more white people in the country and they're rioting and want change too. Everyone wants it, go fucking get it. 

Police violence and systemic racism is absolutely nothing new in the US. The police shoots like 5 unarmed black people every week. Aggression won't change that. Hell, not even protests will. If anything they'll make it worse.

The only thing that'll help is if all those people protesting get their lazy asses into a voting booth the next time it counts. To change policy you first need to elect people who are willing to change policy. If all these people who are now screaming and pretend to care about issues actually voted then no racist would ever be able to hold office in that country. But alas, this protest will just end at some point, Republicans will have gained their talking points and those lazy bastards will watch another election at home on their looted TV set not going their way.



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Nighthawk117 on 29 May 2020

"Former MPD Officer Derek Chauvin Has Been Taken Into Custody In George Floyd’s Death"

He's actually safer in a cell than being at home.



Nighthawk117 on 29 May 2020
vivster said:
John2290 said:

Look at the video I posted below this comment. Fuck that shit. It's also now just a black mission for this to change, there are more white people in the country and they're rioting and want change too. Everyone wants it, go fucking get it. 

Police violence and systemic racism is absolutely nothing new in the US. The police shoots like 5 unarmed black people every week.

Yeah, we just love our guns here in trigger-happy USA!



iron_megalith on 29 May 2020

I support the protests but not with violence to those that are unaffiliated with the incident. They just caused misery to someone else that did not have anything to do with their mess especially in this time of need. It was nothing more than an opportunistic move that derails the intent of this movement. It was unnecessary collateral. The protesters need to be vigilant about keeping an eye such activities.