Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 20, 2020 (May 11 - May 17)

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src said:
MasonADC said:

As I said, not having stock for a game that is frontloaded is horrible. JRPGs already don’t have legs and now the legs are even worse due to no stock. Are we really comparing AC to trials of mana? This isn’t the first time a square Enix game has been undershipped on a Nintendo console so why can’t you seem to accept the reality 

I'm not the one having a problem with reality. That would be you, you can't even find the numbers to support your argument.

You're not making any sense. So what if one week had stock shortages. It gets replenished and most people can wait a week will buy it next week. Trying to act like the week's shortage is the reason the SW SKU is 30k behind the PS4 SKU LMAO

You know whats even funnier. Even with stock being replenished the SW SKU is still below the PS4 SKU.

Wyrdness said:

In other words you did then you just flat out admitted it here and this is the same argument they're putting forward.

Nope because I never said FF7R's stock issues stopped it from selling in future weeks. Try again. Maybe you'll get it right third time.

It hasn’t been only one week though. There has been talks of stock issues since launch. Would people really wait repeatedly when there are other options rather than a physical version of a frontloaded JPRG?   Why are you repeating talking about the PS4? I haven’t mentioned it once and it’s coming off like you’re obsessed. 



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zorg1000 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

There are 5 games above it that are both older than 6 months and have less lifetime sales.  Front loaded.

Other games having amazing legs doesn't mean this game has poor legs.

For Nintendo standard the legs definitely look disappointing though. 



newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

Other games having amazing legs doesn't mean this game has poor legs.

For Nintendo standard the legs definitely look disappointing though. 

Not really, its legs are pretty common for pokemon.



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zorg1000 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

There are 5 games above it that are both older than 6 months and have less lifetime sales.  Front loaded.

Other games having amazing legs doesn't mean this game has poor legs.

It means that Pokemon is front loaded.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
zorg1000 said:

Other games having amazing legs doesn't mean this game has poor legs.

It means that Pokemon is front loaded.

If Pokemon in general is frontloaded than what sense does it make to declare the most recent title is frontloaded?

"Pokemon is performing like Pokemon" is about as useless as a statement one can make.



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zorg1000 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

It means that Pokemon is front loaded.

If Pokemon in general is frontloaded than what sense does it make to declare the most recent title is frontloaded?

"Pokemon is performing like Pokemon" is about as useless as a statement one can make.

Because the Switch has given most franchises far bigger legs than usual, yet Pokémon seems to not be receiving this same boost.



MasonADC said:
src said:

I'm not the one having a problem with reality. That would be you, you can't even find the numbers to support your argument.

You're not making any sense. So what if one week had stock shortages. It gets replenished and most people can wait a week will buy it next week. Trying to act like the week's shortage is the reason the SW SKU is 30k behind the PS4 SKU LMAO

You know whats even funnier. Even with stock being replenished the SW SKU is still below the PS4 SKU.

Nope because I never said FF7R's stock issues stopped it from selling in future weeks. Try again. Maybe you'll get it right third time.

It hasn’t been only one week though. There has been talks of stock issues since launch. Would people really wait repeatedly when there are other options rather than a physical version of a frontloaded JPRG?   Why are you repeating talking about the PS4? I haven’t mentioned it once and it’s coming off like you’re obsessed. 

So back it up with actual data?

Everything I've seen has PS4 and SW SKUs at 80-100% throughout the weeks. So clearly there isn't that much disparity between stock for PS4 and SW.

2nd week drop was 70% PS4 and 82% SW, again not that different other than SW performing worse.

3rd week is where we see stock issues affect sales, PS4 around 40% drop SW at 80% drop, but the amount of sales are low as its the third week of an RPG.

So there you go, stocks caused issue in the third week and the SW lost around 10k sales.

Stock was consequently replenished and the bump was very little.



src said:
MasonADC said:

It hasn’t been only one week though. There has been talks of stock issues since launch. Would people really wait repeatedly when there are other options rather than a physical version of a frontloaded JPRG?   Why are you repeating talking about the PS4? I haven’t mentioned it once and it’s coming off like you’re obsessed. 

So back it up with actual data?

Everything I've seen has PS4 and SW SKUs at 80-100% throughout the weeks. So clearly there isn't that much disparity between stock for PS4 and SW.

2nd week drop was 70% PS4 and 82% SW, again not that different other than SW performing worse.

3rd week is where we see stock issues affect sales, PS4 around 40% drop SW at 80% drop, but the amount of sales are low as its the third week of an RPG.

So there you go, stocks caused issue in the third week and the SW lost around 10k sales.

Stock was consequently replenished and the bump was very little.

The switch version was sold out on amazon for like two weeks at launch lol. In week 2, when switch lacked stock, wouldn’t it make sense for the PS4 version to have a better drop because consumers would go for it? Also, was stocked completely replenished? And even if it was, the demand for the game is basically gone now. The exactly same thing happened with octopath in 2018. If stock isn’t there right away physical sales will be loss. 



newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

If Pokemon in general is frontloaded than what sense does it make to declare the most recent title is frontloaded?

"Pokemon is performing like Pokemon" is about as useless as a statement one can make.

Because the Switch has given most franchises far bigger legs than usual, yet Pokémon seems to not be receiving this same boost.

Which games have gotten longer legs? 



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newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

If Pokemon in general is frontloaded than what sense does it make to declare the most recent title is frontloaded?

"Pokemon is performing like Pokemon" is about as useless as a statement one can make.

Because the Switch has given most franchises far bigger legs than usual, yet Pokémon seems to not be receiving this same boost.

Pokémon switch legs are in correlation with the switch lite sales. When the switch lite is facing severe stock issues, pokemon SWSH legs will also be impacted. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter though as it has already reversed the decline in japan and will reach 5 million in japan alone