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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 20, 2020 (May 11 - May 17)

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newwil7l on 25 May 2020
zorg1000 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

It means that Pokemon is front loaded.

If Pokemon in general is frontloaded than what sense does it make to declare the most recent title is frontloaded?

"Pokemon is performing like Pokemon" is about as useless as a statement one can make.

Because the Switch has given most franchises far bigger legs than usual, yet Pokémon seems to not be receiving this same boost.



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src on 25 May 2020
MasonADC said:
src said:

I'm not the one having a problem with reality. That would be you, you can't even find the numbers to support your argument.

You're not making any sense. So what if one week had stock shortages. It gets replenished and most people can wait a week will buy it next week. Trying to act like the week's shortage is the reason the SW SKU is 30k behind the PS4 SKU LMAO

You know whats even funnier. Even with stock being replenished the SW SKU is still below the PS4 SKU.

Nope because I never said FF7R's stock issues stopped it from selling in future weeks. Try again. Maybe you'll get it right third time.

It hasn’t been only one week though. There has been talks of stock issues since launch. Would people really wait repeatedly when there are other options rather than a physical version of a frontloaded JPRG?   Why are you repeating talking about the PS4? I haven’t mentioned it once and it’s coming off like you’re obsessed. 

So back it up with actual data?

Everything I've seen has PS4 and SW SKUs at 80-100% throughout the weeks. So clearly there isn't that much disparity between stock for PS4 and SW.

2nd week drop was 70% PS4 and 82% SW, again not that different other than SW performing worse.

3rd week is where we see stock issues affect sales, PS4 around 40% drop SW at 80% drop, but the amount of sales are low as its the third week of an RPG.

So there you go, stocks caused issue in the third week and the SW lost around 10k sales.

Stock was consequently replenished and the bump was very little.



MasonADC on 25 May 2020
src said:
MasonADC said:

It hasn’t been only one week though. There has been talks of stock issues since launch. Would people really wait repeatedly when there are other options rather than a physical version of a frontloaded JPRG?   Why are you repeating talking about the PS4? I haven’t mentioned it once and it’s coming off like you’re obsessed. 

So back it up with actual data?

Everything I've seen has PS4 and SW SKUs at 80-100% throughout the weeks. So clearly there isn't that much disparity between stock for PS4 and SW.

2nd week drop was 70% PS4 and 82% SW, again not that different other than SW performing worse.

3rd week is where we see stock issues affect sales, PS4 around 40% drop SW at 80% drop, but the amount of sales are low as its the third week of an RPG.

So there you go, stocks caused issue in the third week and the SW lost around 10k sales.

Stock was consequently replenished and the bump was very little.

The switch version was sold out on amazon for like two weeks at launch lol. In week 2, when switch lacked stock, wouldn’t it make sense for the PS4 version to have a better drop because consumers would go for it? Also, was stocked completely replenished? And even if it was, the demand for the game is basically gone now. The exactly same thing happened with octopath in 2018. If stock isn’t there right away physical sales will be loss. 



zorg1000 on 25 May 2020
newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

If Pokemon in general is frontloaded than what sense does it make to declare the most recent title is frontloaded?

"Pokemon is performing like Pokemon" is about as useless as a statement one can make.

Because the Switch has given most franchises far bigger legs than usual, yet Pokémon seems to not be receiving this same boost.

Which games have gotten longer legs? 



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MasonADC on 25 May 2020
newwil7l said:
zorg1000 said:

If Pokemon in general is frontloaded than what sense does it make to declare the most recent title is frontloaded?

"Pokemon is performing like Pokemon" is about as useless as a statement one can make.

Because the Switch has given most franchises far bigger legs than usual, yet Pokémon seems to not be receiving this same boost.

Pokémon switch legs are in correlation with the switch lite sales. When the switch lite is facing severe stock issues, pokemon SWSH legs will also be impacted. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter though as it has already reversed the decline in japan and will reach 5 million in japan alone 



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noshten on 25 May 2020

Just some other Square Enix games on the Switch

Dragon Quest Builders 2 Launch vs Lifetime Sales

Dragon Quest Builders 2  - 97.673

Dragon Quest Builders 2 - 290.255

Octopath Traveler Launch vs Lifetime Sales

Octopath Traveler - 109.579 

Octopath Traveler - 193.780

Dragon Quest XI S Launch vs Lifetime Sales

Dragon Quest XI S - 303.204

Dragon Quest XI S – 518.979

Trials of Mana - 70.114


Only Octopath Traveller faced similar shortages at launch to Trials of Mana and still nearly doubled its sales.

So I wouldn't rule out that by next year the Switch version outselling the PS4 version. The Switch is set to have a record-breaking year in Japan, we are talking at least 3M more hardware sold by the end of the year. So even a game like Trials of Mana will benefit. When Famitsu releases their Top 100 for 2020 we will see which one ends up on top.

But the original argument was regarding shortages, and yes Trials of Mana continue to have shortages on the Switch in Japan(for example it's out of stock on Amazon, while there the PS4 version is in stock). Demand has not been met & with the second-hand market Square Enix missed some sales in Japan.
Luckily they will make up these Sales elsewhere, for example Trials of Mana was in the top 10 for April in the NPD Switch Ranking. This was during a month where Switch sold 800K in North America. So despite missing sales in Japan Square did provide enough stock elsewhere for the game to do respectfully well. I won't be surprised to see it sell over 1M on the Switch World Wide by the end of the year which would continue to ensure similar AA are launched on the Switch in the future. 



Kai_Mao on 25 May 2020

A bit outside of the topic, but Trials of Mana ranking on Switch's top 10 in the NPD is promising. Regardless if the Switch version sells better than the PS4 in any region, its good that both versions are available. It allows the game to reach a broader audience. Plus, the decent sales of both versions provide another example of AA multiplatform games finding success on Switch. Especially since there are a few who question why have a Switch version of certain AA/AAA games, even when its selling at an incredible pace and is likely to remain the dominant console even when the PS5 comes out in Japan.