I know it, but from customer POV is even sillier to excuse the lack of games on the WiiU you own because they were releasing on 3DS you don't own. We can't deny WiiU was abandoned. They had 2 system during GB and DS plus they are multibillionaire and focused on gaming, so we don't need to excuse they not taking steps to ensure WiiU received good support.

They supported it just fine until they switched focus to the Switch. But every device is eventually unsupported due to the company focusing on the next gen, not just Wii U. The difference for Wii I I'd it was cut short a year early. Prior to that last year I don't see any difference in amount of first party games produced compared to Wii, GameCube, N64, etc. During their respective supported years.

If you have data to back up that claim I'll admit you are right.

The reason used on VGC by almost everyone to show WiiU had poor sales was that they released few games, and Nintendo themselves excused themselves due to the long droughts. You even said you have to use 3DS together to say they didn't had a long period without great games.

TBF, there's no such concept as 2nd party. Those are simply 1st party games developed by independent studios. They're overseen by Xbox Game Studios Publishing, which acts as part of XGS in general.

I was specifically addressing the 7 month timeframe someone said it took before a new game dropped. I never said it had great support, but the notion that Nintendo was only pumping out one first party game total every 7 months is ridiculous. And again, we have to track combined first party because they split their development teams in half before Switch. If they just had Wii U and not 3ds, they would have had far more first party games come out. We can't penalize them for that.

And I used that argument for all generations, not just Wii U/3DS.

In any case, everytime someone responds so far they aren't understanding what I'm saying, so I give up. I guess this is just a communication error. I'm certainly not going to argue with people.

I find 2nd party flawed as a concept because that can apply to anything. Would Fire Emblem be considered 2nd party? Intelligent Systems isn't technically owned by Nintendo, yet many consider it a first party IP anyway. What about Ratchet & Clank? Insomniac for the longest time was an independent company, yet Ratchet was still considered a first party PlayStation IP. These "2nd party games" are also still being worked on by first party development staff anyway, so the distinction is rather pointless. Sony's Japan, Santa Monica, London, and San Diego studios have worked on a variety of games from independent companies, as have Gruella Games and Media Molecule. Nintendo's EPD division has its hand in practically every game the company publishes, and one of Xbox' studios, is a unit who's sole function is to just oversee games from independent companies. 

Basically anything published by the Platform holder in my eyes, is a first party game, as the publisher is still calling the shots on the game's development. 

The concept is actually well defined.

1st party - Studios of the platform holder

3rd party - Independent studios working on their own IPs (can be multiplatform or exclusive)

2nd party - comissioned work, IP is owned by platform holder and studio still have independence but almost only develop for that platform.

So Insomniac was a second party for Sony since almost all games were on Sony consoles and Sony owned the IPs, but let's say Atlus is third party as is the Ryu ga Gotoku team from Sega even if most of their games were exclusives to Sony or Insomniac when making Sunset Overdrive that was exclusive to MS.

I'll buy the concept of 2nd party studios. But 2nd party games aren't a real concept as far as I'm concerned. You're either a first party game, or a third party one. 

Well the only concept of 2nd party game would be a game made by a second party studio, but sure it would look akin to a first party game.

I still consider games from independent studios published by the platform holder to be first party. The platform holder is still putting their own money and dev talent on these games, so they count IMO.