No what he and others have meant in this thread is you argue both sides of the same coin whenever it suits your agenda. So it's no surprise that after making a few threads where you claim that next gen should be about more than pretty graphics, you're impressed by a demo and what it can showcase for next gen when that demo is literally just better graphics slapped onto gameplay that could have easily come from 2008. You also argued a ton that those types of graphics can't scale, that there's no way XSX games can look next gen if they are also designed to work on Xbone. And yet, again, you're very impressed by this demo designed to scale from the most powerful PC's all the way down to tablets and phones.

Even now you're starting to teeter back to the argument that next gen should be about new gameplay experiences, even though this demo showcased none of it (and why should it, it's not even a game). But you'll just have multiple people again tell you that cross gen doesn't limit the type of gameplay experiences you can offer, and also that next gen launch games typically don't wildly innovate gameplay anyway. Remember the other thread when you were honestly trying to tell us that Infamous 3 was a legit next gen game because it offered experiences not available on PS3, and you even linked a DigitalFoundry article? An article that literally said Infamous 3 didn't offer anything new gameplay wise but sure looked pretty? You've had a double standard from the start.

Also regarding views and likes and follows and tweets, didn't a picture of a controller or something blow up more than Microsoft actually showing the whole box and Hellblade II? I can see why you'd like to latch on to the numbers argument as it's seemingly all you have left, but they are clearly irrelevant. Playstation is simply more popular worldwide and by a large margin. Anything they show will have higher numbers.

It's also bizarre that you're criticizing one company for showcasing smaller games and cross gen games knowing full well that they have a first party showcase planned for July, while the other has shown literally nothing and you're fine with it lol

Wow they must be taking tips from Sony then .

@OP i just knew who made this thread. And honestly i cant wait till xmas this year just so i can bring up all your old threads in one mega topic titled

"Goopy's fantasy world" .

Funny enough thats also in around the time frame MS will stop doing cross gen .

The Cell can beat Jaguar in a few key scenarios... Such as Iterative Refinement in Floating Point, Games use all different kinds of maths/equations/problems and that is constantly changing, the Cell simply is only good at a handling a select few.

Where-as Jaguar is a far more balanced architecture as it needs to be proficient at all types of problems as the PC isn't some single-use environment, which means that higher precision floating point, integers and so forth tend to be higher performing on Jaguar.

Look at this way...

Let's say you have Cell and Jaguar cruising down the highway, the Cell might cruise happily at 100kilometers/miles per hour, but "occasionally" speed up to 200/km/miles depending if there are favorable road (I.E. Math) conditions.

Where-as Jaguar is able to do 150km/miles per hour constantly regardless of road conditions... And as such is able to beat Cell in the race to the end, Cell might have the higher potential top speed, but it's impossible to maintain it.

It's another case where "Flops" does not tell the entire story, only the theoretical maximum, not the sustainable amount.

The Cell was definitely a good gaming CPU for the time, but it was obscenely difficult to program for, at the time developers were only getting used to building games for 2-threads, let alone the 6-7 of the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, but when they did get used to building games in such a parallel fashion, games started to come into their own.
The other issue is that they are in-order designs, where-as Jaguar is very capable at handling "dirty" problems due to it's out-of-order design, branch prediction and so forth... And thus maintaining a degree of efficiency on the Cell and Xenon needed to have compilers optimized and "hand guided" in order to reduce CPU pipeline stalls on Cell and Xenon.

I could go more in-depth here, but that is a rough idea of why Jaguar is better than Cell... And again, the games do actually prove it, Frostbite multiplayer games on Xbox One/Playstation 4 had big increases in player counts, more impressive physics and so forth and that was a trend that occurred all generation long and allowed for a new Genre aka "Battle Royale" to become possible.

Zen takes things a big step forward though in a generational CPU increase, we probably haven't seen such a jump in a very long time on the CPU front, the CPU might only be mid-range, by Zen is stupidly capable and that has me moist for what it will bring to the table.

I don't know about goal posts but I've gone on record several times saying that this entire gen felt like gen 7.5. I watched Ryse on Twitch and it actually made me NOT want an Xbox One. I just wasn't impressed. And Second Son was my second PS4 game. Just like the PS3 (and PS2 now that I think about it--that's why I bought The Bouncer) I wanted my second game to be a graphical monster.

Maybe I just had unrealistic expectations but I was disappointed with both. It took a long time for me to be happy with the 8th gen. It was a slow evolution. The PSVR, on the other hand. I was blown away on day one. That's the "wow" I wanted from a new machine. I think I've said Until Dawn was the first game that looked next gen to me--but thinking about it, it may have been The Order. Never played Killzone even when I could have gotten it for free. 

Maybe it's less about moving goalposts and people genuinely not being amazed.

*Edit* I actually wound up buy Ryse three different times 😂

Which 3? I can only name Medium right now.

Ascent isn't next-gen only. Xbox has it listed as Xbox one.

Scorn apparently was announced in 2014? With a second kickstarter in 2017.

But it isn't going to be on the Xbox one - so I did totally miss that.

Scorn definitely could, given it was announced in 2017

Any game can scale, but that's not really what people mean. Efficiently, you want your games to take advantage of the latest hardware. In Scorn's case, it's better suited for what's coming versus trying to put it on the Xbox One.