Vodacixi said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Opinions can and will change when new facts are learned, so there's no need to tell people not to have a negative opinion especially while you're not doing the same for positive ones.
Now I think it does need to be a Paper Mario game if it wants to use the name. There's already at least one post in this thread of someone saying they're interested in this game after playing the originals. Even I was fooled by Sticker Star, so I bet there's plenty more who will fall for this deception.
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I'm just suggesting people (that's why I started with "I think we should...") that maybe 20 confusing seconds of footage in japanese is not enough to have a strong opinion about the battle system, for good or bad. Sure, you are free to think that its trash or a genious system, but with so little information on the topic... I don't know, it's seems like an opinion based on nothing to me. But if someone wants to approach it that way, good for them (I guess).
I myself have expressed my doubts about the battle system knowing how the previous two entries handled things. But since I still don't fully understand how the battles work in the Origami King, that's the only thing I can do: doubt.
Paper Mario has five different games, only two of which are actual RPGs. Maybe when they released Super Paper Mario or Sticker Star it was a controversial move, but nowadays, you guys have to accept that Paper Mario is not (or it doesn't have to be) an RPG series, nor you should expect or demand an RPG game. They aren't even promoting this as an RPG. So if they "fool" you now, you are the one to blame.
Finally, as I said before, this game doesn't need to have a battle system like TYD. It's not a matter of doing that or do something bad. And that was my whole point: people are talking like if the game will automatically be bad if it's not like the originals. No. That's not how things are. They have thousands (no pun intended) of options to create an interesting and fun battle system without it being like the originals or even an RPG at all. It can be a great game on its own right. You may not be interested in that approach, but that doesn't make it bad.
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Tell v.s. suggested is just semantics. Otherwise my response is still the same, opinions can change so it's fine if people make them based on trailers, that is the point of trailers after all.
I'll accept it just as much as Miyamoto accepted Paper Mario being an RPG with interesting character designs, which is to say, not at all! The name comes with expectations. If you don't want those expectations, simply change the name, that's the most sensible option as it's entirely within their control. To instead expect fans to just accept that the original games don't matter isn't neither realistic nor within their power. I don't think they care though, taking advantage of the good will the original games garnered is more important to them than being honest. You're right it is ultimately the consumers fault whenever they're fooled for not doing enough research, but companys can still be responsible in part.
Your last paragraph is arguing against a point I never made, even if it "sounded like it" to you. Of course the game can still be good even if it's not a true successor to TTYD. However, the game bears resemblance to Sticker Star n Color Splash, so I don't think it'll be good even in a vacuum.
