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TruckOSaurus said:
As someone who loved the Tenchu games, the ninja gameplay has me pretty happy! Can't wait to play it!

I have been waiting for a new Tenchu game since PS1 ended.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
TruckOSaurus said:
As someone who loved the Tenchu games, the ninja gameplay has me pretty happy! Can't wait to play it!

I have been waiting for a new Tenchu game since PS1 ended.

Wrath of Heaven on PS2 was pretty good. I didn't like the angle they took with the Wii game. In any case, that series has been dormant for over 10 years now and Ghost of Tsushima seems like it could fill that void.



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Been keeping half an eye on this, but this video didn't do much for me. I don't think I'm in their demographic at all. It looks somewhat nice, I especially like the art direction and dreamlike color palette, despite the world looking rather empty.



shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:

I have platined AC Oddissey and Origin and there is nothing real about their battle. One strike and dead is more real than fighting 20 enemies at once without a single bruise, or taking several strikes and still being fine.

From what we know AC avoided Japan exactly because they knew the competition with GoT would be fierce.

That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. I really enjoy the Witcher like combat system in the new AC games.

Where are you getting that from? AC Valhalla was made by the same team that released AC Origins. AC Origins released 3 days before Ghost of Tsushima was announced, and because games enter pre-production at studios even before the previous game is released, AC Valhalla was almost certainly in pre-production for at least a month or two before Ghost of Tsushima was announced. I highly doubt that Ghost of Tsushima factored into their decision to go with Vikings next instead of Japan. And the fact that Feudal Japan was on Ubisoft's 2nd AC setting survey in December 2017, 2 months after Ghost of Tsushima was announced, means that Ubisoft is still considering Feudal Japan for future AC games after Valhalla.

From what we've heard in earlier interviews with Ubisoft from the late 2000's and early 2010's, the reason that Ubisoft has been hesitant to do a Japan AC game is because they didn't think that western gaming fans would respond well to such a totally foreign setting, and they knew that the series popularity in Japan wasn't high enough to support a huge AAA budget if sales in the west were poor. Arkhane offered up a similar opinion, the Dishonored series was originally intended to be set in a fictional world based on Feudal Japan, but Arkhane thought that that western fans wouldn't respond well to such a foreign setting, and the setting of Dishonored was changed from being based on Japan to being based on 1800's Europe. Sega offered a similar opinion on why they decided not to release the Feudal and Edo period Yakuza Kenzan and Yakuza Ishin in the west, Sega also believed that the western market wouldn't respond well to games set in historic Japan. If anything, the popularity of Ghost of Tsushima in the west makes the chances of seeing AC Japan in the future much higher, and Sega has also suggested that a Yakuza Ishin localization might be possible now, after they saw the strong reception to Ghost of Tsushima (and to a lesser extent, Sekiro and Nioh) in the west.

Well I practiced Kendo for 5 years reaching 2nd Dan and some championship wins. Plus I have an idea of the strenght of a katana and purpose and can ensure you that a samurai fight would be closer to a two people analyzing one another and deciding the match in a few strokes (can be even one depending on where you hit) instead of multiple heats and sword clashing as you see in Holywood. I would ask you to try fighting without a hand, or with a 3 inches deep cut on the arm or head. No one man battalion gameplay is really "close to reality".

Yes they are considering Japan, but I don't remember the report where I saw it, but they decided to avoid Japan for a decade because the setting was already being used by a high profile game.

This excuse of foreign setting is totally obtuse considering that for over 20years the curiosity for Japan material have just increased and is one of the dominant forces in the market.

TruckOSaurus said:
DonFerrari said:

I have been waiting for a new Tenchu game since PS1 ended.

Wrath of Heaven on PS2 was pretty good. I didn't like the angle they took with the Wii game. In any case, that series has been dormant for over 10 years now and Ghost of Tsushima seems like it could fill that void.

Well I haven't seem the PS2 game or just forgot about it. But I really loved the 2 or 3 I played on PS1. I was even a lot interested in the Sekiro, but since it uses Souls system I didn't try yet because I don't like the type of gameplay over there.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

Yes they are considering Japan, but I don't remember the report where I saw it, but they decided to avoid Japan for a decade because the setting was already being used by a high profile game.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/why-an-assassins-creed-set-in-japan-will-probably-remain-an-impossible-dream-for-fans

In short, Ubisoft avoids Japan, because they think it would be cliche. 



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Very much looking forward to GoT! Probably my most anticipated PS4 game coming out this year!



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Angelus said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes they are considering Japan, but I don't remember the report where I saw it, but they decided to avoid Japan for a decade because the setting was already being used by a high profile game.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/why-an-assassins-creed-set-in-japan-will-probably-remain-an-impossible-dream-for-fans

In short, Ubisoft avoids Japan, because they think it would be cliche. 

I bet it will be as niche as single player game is dead.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Angelus said:

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/why-an-assassins-creed-set-in-japan-will-probably-remain-an-impossible-dream-for-fans

In short, Ubisoft avoids Japan, because they think it would be cliche. 

I bet it will be as niche as single player game is dead.

You do know that the last 3 AC games have all been strictly single player games, right? They've not had any form of MP since Unity.



Angelus said:
DonFerrari said:

I bet it will be as niche as single player game is dead.

You do know that the last 3 AC games have all been strictly single player games, right? They've not had any form of MP since Unity.

I'm pretty certain you got the reference.

I played those AC games, and for reference I don't remember any AC game that were MP heavy.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Angelus said:

You do know that the last 3 AC games have all been strictly single player games, right? They've not had any form of MP since Unity.

I'm pretty certain you got the reference.

I played those AC games, and for reference I don't remember any AC game that were MP heavy.

Just checking