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dane007 on 08 May 2020
eva01beserk said:
dane007 said:

Its also sacrificing future profit by not having users adopt the new machine fast enough. Thats why Im sure its gona be 50/50 for sony. They dont have to abandone the 110m ps4's to also provide for the ps5. 

Not everything can be scaled like I mentioned on the other comment like AI. Ram and cpu will make sure that if a game is made for 8th gen, all your getting is a upscale and raytracing added to it. I pretty sure you know how CPU was the bigest complaing since it was weak even when the consoles launched. And like I mentioned before, ram will limit object count and detail. A simple upscale wont make up for that. 

If pc can do that by dialing down its graphics based on hardware then xbox can. Ms has stated that it can be done with xbox series x as the artitecture is the same. Here's the article.  U may not get to play with sliders as they will do it. 

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-05-07-the-big-interview-xbox-series-x-development-chief-jason-ronald-on-power-price-and-that-new-boot-screen

I remember with some ps4 games and games on og xbox. It was a blessing when xbox one x came out as that a solved alot of the issues with Fps issues. Will shall see as xbox series x has impressive specs. Its finally more powerful than my custom made pc 😂



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dane007 on 08 May 2020
The_Liquid_Laser said:
dane007 said:

Medium is also exclusive to xbox series x. This was meant to be third party. All the first party Is in July. Its not what we expected but we at least got to see something. Sony hasn't done anything apart from showing controller and their specs. 

The Medium is also going to be on XBox1."At the time of writing, The Medium is only confirmed for PC, Xbox One, and Xbox Series X release during holiday 2020."
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2020/05/07/bloober-team-new-game-the-medium/

Also, I'm not down with "at least we got to see something".  I like when a reveal is actually a reveal.  I am used to a presentation where they show the hardware, give the specs, give the price, and show off exclusive/next gen games all in the same presentation.  That is what we've always gotten in the past.  That is what I expect.  Now Microsoft is just dangling a carrot in front of everyone's face when they really have nothing to show.  This presentation really sucked.

There is this old saying, "Those who know, don't say, and those who say, don't know."  Well this is a lot like that, only it's "those who have something to show don't say, and those who say don't have anything to show."  Microsoft is saying a whole lot, but they really don't have anything impressive to show.  They trickle out info and hype it to death, but it's really a lot of nothing, just like this presentation.  Sony is holding their cards really close to their chest.  They means they have something great to show, at least they think it's great.  Microsoft doesn't even think their product is great, so we get a constant, fluffy, marketing blitz instead.

That's interesting as Eurogamer did an interview with the game developer and they said it's just xbox series x and pc. Here's the article https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-05-07-layers-of-fear-dev-bloober-talks-its-xbox-series-x-survival-horror-throwback-the-medium.

The system details has been mentioned by Ms that it will be next month and the first party reveal in July. That's when u get the price. This event was to allow third party show off their games that will come on xbox series x. It won't be much different if it was Sony doing it. It's not what we expected but we got something. Better something than nothing. Sony hasn't done anything apart from specs talk and pic of a controller. 



dane007 on 08 May 2020
setsunatenshi said:
dane007 said:

Medium is also exclusive to xbox series x. This was meant to be third party. All the first party Is in July. Its not what we expected but we at least got to see something. Sony hasn't done anything apart from showing controller and their specs. 

It's not about Sony, it was MS show yesterday. We'll discuss Sony when they do a similar presentation.

Just saying we got something to see which is better than nothing. Some of these games will look similar as it will be on the same system. We haven't heard anything from Sony yet which is concerning. 



setsunatenshi on 08 May 2020
dane007 said:
setsunatenshi said:

It's not about Sony, it was MS show yesterday. We'll discuss Sony when they do a similar presentation.

Just saying we got something to see which is better than nothing. Some of these games will look similar as it will be on the same system. We haven't heard anything from Sony yet which is concerning. 

I disagree, a shit show is much worse than a no show. Especially when most, if not all that was shown is current gen games (including PC).

Are you really concerned about Sony? Even you don't believe that lol



Leynos on 08 May 2020
dane007 said:
eva01beserk said:

3 seconds? My mistake, I take it all back. Dont pretend you dint know that was a hyperbole. And so they should extended. Why not? If you see the critisim online people whent in asuming 2-3 hours when they heard its all about gameplay. There are no other presentations from anyone else, so having all day for that would have been fine by all. Where this E3 where 5 others have a 2 hours each would be understandable, but not here.

I also follow CGI, not as much as you probably and sure thouse screenshots look amazing. But I also follow others on youtube whos main channels are about hardware comparasion and they show they actual gameplay with various components and while playing avove 60fps and the diference is hardly notiable. They actually have to freeze the frames and actually zoom in to notice thouse diference. Higher framerates stope being noticeable after a point. granted that varies from person to person but everyone has a limit on how many fps they can appreciate. 

Again games in development tent to shoot higher than what eventually deliver and you can see that on almost every E3 as they need to downgrade and the final game is night and day, so now they should be better. Remember Anthem? Watchdogs? do I need to go on?

Im glad you like AI, as that is definetly held back by the cpu and I her some say that the hdd as well and the various animations and character details and possible actions are read directly from storage, so better storage and cpu means vastly better AI. Wich is something that does not change across gens, so if they make something the x1/ps4 can handle, the same AI will be implemented on ps5/xsx. There could be like small aditions and enhancements but like you said, they wont screw over the majority of players and offer a vastly diferent experience for last gen.

Don't know what show u been watching. U need to look at it again.

Bright memory infinite was pure gameplay as the game was made by one person. The entire trailer was in game gameplay

Call of of sea showed how the game will look on xbox series x. That was in game graphics that they showed. 

Chorus : Half of the trailer showed actual In game gameplay. U can tell from the graphics showed. 

Scarlett nexus had more than half is trailer showing in game gameplay when it was fighting monsters and bosses. 

Second extinction :the ugliest looking game showcased and that was pure gameplay in that trailer. 

The ascent :that was majority gameplay in that trailer. U can see it there. 

Medium: the last 20 seconds of the trailer showcased the gameplay.

Vampire masquerade 2 had about 30 % of its trailer with gameplay. U can see the difference between cg and gameplay. It was obvious.

These out of 13 showed way more than 3 seconds. I envy cgi computer!. Wished I had that kind of pc power as his screenshot look stunning!. I don't have a pc that can beyond 60fps on modern games but I can imagine it will be as big as it is between 30fps and 60fps. We all would love 2 to 3 hours but the developers need to get the game done on time with the pandemic going on.

Not everyone is ubisoft and bioware. Ubisoft have learnt since watchdogs as all their modern AC games quality and remained when it get finally released. 

I am waiting for the day when I get outsmarted by AI and not by AI that has either too much health, extra strength, long reach or just priority for attacks. I want them to be actually intelligent lol. Fingers cross the next gen we get that. 

This is a lot of grasping at straws. Most of the "gameplay" is in the engine and not in-game. And to seriously argue "last 20 seconds" as showing gameplay is lame. The entire trailer should be gameplay. Since it's an Astral Chain looking ripoff. Go watch that first Astral Chain trailer. The first 20 seconds is setup and the rest of it is pure gameplay in-game. Not in engine with only the last few seconds of in-game.

Gameplay should not be the last couple of seconds or only a 3rd. It should be nearly the entire thing aside from setup.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

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starcraft on 08 May 2020

Microsoft said they would show gameplay and trailers from upcoming third party games. They showed gameplay and trailers from upcoming third party games.

If the Inside Xbox didn't meet your expectations, there's a reasonable chance the issue was with your expectations...

Though I am sad they didn't reveal the rumoured ME trilogy remaster.



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dane007 on 08 May 2020
setsunatenshi said:
dane007 said:

Just saying we got something to see which is better than nothing. Some of these games will look similar as it will be on the same system. We haven't heard anything from Sony yet which is concerning. 

I disagree, a shit show is much worse than a no show. Especially when most, if not all that was shown is current gen games (including PC).

Are you really concerned about Sony? Even you don't believe that lol

I am concern as its getting close to holiday season and we seen nothing apart from a controller. I usually think they are not confident in the product that they have by not showing. 

I am as I usually get all of the consoles in each gen. There's was alot of gameplay shown in each game. I gave the games showing actual gameplay in the previous post in page 8. For me like dirt 5 having 4k 60fps or 4k 120 Fps with all the bells and whistle is already next gen for me. Current gent can't do 4k 120fps lol



Leynos on 08 May 2020
starcraft said:
Microsoft said they would show gameplay and trailers from upcoming third party games. They showed gameplay and trailers from upcoming third party games.

If the Inside Xbox didn't meet your expectations, there's a reasonable chance the issue was with your expectations...

Though I am sad they didn't reveal the rumoured ME trilogy remaster.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

setsunatenshi on 08 May 2020
dane007 said:
setsunatenshi said:

I disagree, a shit show is much worse than a no show. Especially when most, if not all that was shown is current gen games (including PC).

Are you really concerned about Sony? Even you don't believe that lol

I am concern as its getting close to holiday season and we seen nothing apart from a controller. I usually think they are not confident in the product that they have by not showing. 

I am as I usually get all of the consoles in each gen. There's was alot of gameplay shown in each game. I gave the games showing actual gameplay in the previous post in page 8. For me like dirt 5 having 4k 60fps or 4k 120 Fps with all the bells and whistle is already next gen for me. Current gent can't do 4k 120fps lol

Can your tv do 4k 120Hz? There's nothing stopping a game from having high framerate, high resolution nowadays on pc, what's difficult still is having an actual monitor that displays a quality image at that resolution and refresh rate.

I'm sorry buy I don't buy your concern here, Sony has not shown next gen games, but the same is true for MS. What we've seen yesterday was mostly in engine footage (mostly non gameplay) of current gen games, to be released rather soon. MS talks about showing their hand in July, are you concerned about it? Sony has 2 gigantic 1st party games releasing before even MS has their first party showing, does that concern you as well?

Sounds like a bit of damage control after a terrible showing from MS yesterday, built by their own hype machine. They've got no one but themselves to blame for it. Bringing Sony up in this discussion is just an attempt to distract from that point.



dane007 on 08 May 2020
Leynos said:
dane007 said:

Don't know what show u been watching. U need to look at it again.

Bright memory infinite was pure gameplay as the game was made by one person. The entire trailer was in game gameplay

Call of of sea showed how the game will look on xbox series x. That was in game graphics that they showed. 

Chorus : Half of the trailer showed actual In game gameplay. U can tell from the graphics showed. 

Scarlett nexus had more than half is trailer showing in game gameplay when it was fighting monsters and bosses. 

Second extinction :the ugliest looking game showcased and that was pure gameplay in that trailer. 

The ascent :that was majority gameplay in that trailer. U can see it there. 

Medium: the last 20 seconds of the trailer showcased the gameplay.

Vampire masquerade 2 had about 30 % of its trailer with gameplay. U can see the difference between cg and gameplay. It was obvious.

These out of 13 showed way more than 3 seconds. I envy cgi computer!. Wished I had that kind of pc power as his screenshot look stunning!. I don't have a pc that can beyond 60fps on modern games but I can imagine it will be as big as it is between 30fps and 60fps. We all would love 2 to 3 hours but the developers need to get the game done on time with the pandemic going on.

Not everyone is ubisoft and bioware. Ubisoft have learnt since watchdogs as all their modern AC games quality and remained when it get finally released. 

I am waiting for the day when I get outsmarted by AI and not by AI that has either too much health, extra strength, long reach or just priority for attacks. I want them to be actually intelligent lol. Fingers cross the next gen we get that. 

This is a lot of grasping at straws. Most of the "gameplay" is in the engine and not in-game. And to seriously argue "last 20 seconds" as showing gameplay is lame. The entire trailer should be gameplay. Since it's an Astral Chain looking ripoff. Go watch that first Astral Chain trailer. The first 20 seconds is setup and the rest of it is pure gameplay in-game. Not in engine with only the last few seconds of in-game.

Gameplay should not be the last couple of seconds or only a 3rd. It should be nearly the entire thing aside from setup.

There's a difference between in engine and in game and almost all of 13 games were in game gameplay. There some games where all the trailer was gameplay. I mentioned it lol. How medium did was good as it shows the game cinematic, the developer did a talk and then showed. gameplay. Nothing wrong with that. Didnt u notice the small writing where it says the footage is the expected xbox series x gameplay.

The whole event was just to show the gameplay trailer. They made it clear. The difference between astral chain and what we saw could be due to how far in development it is. Astral chain might have been closer to the finished product? It's a guess lol. I am just happy to see what's to expect.