Picky arent we?

I said there is no evidence? Second time you try to say I made an argument so you can add something that dosent even answer it. But I said the evidence is dodgy at best. Numbers get reported like I said, the graphs I posted show the research. Can I proove its 100% accurate? No I cannot which is why I said I could be wrong. What can be sure is acurate is the global revenue split and that is definetly higher. And I would put good money on the Asian market bloating pc revenue on f2p games.

Never doubted that the pc ecosystem benefits the most for new ideas and/or innovation.  And like you know when a game break out big and then gets ported to consoles, guess what, it sells a lot more on them. Then if they really have something they make a sequel and it launches in all platforms from the get go and they tend to aim again at the lowest common denominator and highest source of income.

Stop mentioning star citizen please . that sounds more like a scam every single day and can only hurt your case. 

But again ..i still dont know why you are still on this. I have said pc gaming is big and has a lot of potential for devs to aim for just that consoles are biger. That's not really up for debate.

In regards to your final point about the possibility of ND, Santa Monica and the rest doing a next gen exclusive in the first couple years, I have zero doubt they will be top quality titles. But we aren’t talking about getting a high Metacritic, we are talking about potential utilized in the beginning of the gen. My argument is that it has never been done before no matter the console or developer. So if you can’t get 100% potential year 1 no matter what you do...might as well make the game cross gen and get more sales out of it while you at it. 

For the record I agree with you but I’m just taking a different route, pretending they are right (that they are truly held back) and going from there :)

Looks like somebody doesn’t know what Smart Delivery is. You get the appropriate version based on the console you own. Each version specifically tailored. 

I get what you are saying and I don't disagree with it, hardware can limit developers however good developers find ways around the limits.

Look at the XB1 launch line up. They launched with Forza 5, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct and Ryse Son of Rome. All these games were built on XB1 hardware, did that change the fate of the console? It was outsold by the PS4 3 to 1. 

Nintendo a few years later launch the Switch with Zelda BOTW, a cross gen game made on limited WiiU hardware and it blew the competition doors down and sold incredibly well.

Gamers just want good quality games, no one went out to buy a XB1 because of Ryse which was the best looking game for many years, nor Forza 5.. imagine if Forza 5 was build as a Forza 4 sequel cross gen instead of being made from the ground up on X1? It would have been a much better end product.

https://www.cryengine.com/news/view/ryse-wins-siggraph-award-for-best-real-time-graphics#

1st party exclusives using the latest hardware is always a good thing however also look at it as a customers perspective, imagine if you just brought a XB1X or a PS4 Pro, than realise its obsolete once the next gen consoles arrive because you wont be getting any more games. To me, a good healthy eco system is more important than how much a console sells at launch. good eco systems increase game life spans, helps multiplayer games continue to be played, helps sell more copies of games, and allows the brand to maintain their customers instead of slapping them in the face asking them to fork out $500+ to buy the next system or miss out. 

Id rather leave that up to the 3rd party companies that want to push the boundaries, let the 1st party bigger hitters come along when they are ready to use the hardware, otherwise you get stuck with games like Ryse, DriveClub and The Order 1886.

I warned you bud, truly I did.

You're going to have to provide core data at this point. I wouldn't dig any further.

The Critic 🥰

I can't even if I wanted to. I have already said that data is unreliable when trying to track digital purchases. It's ok it was getting off topic and I know I was one of the main reasons so its best to stop.

Don't know that for sure just yet, 343i might bolt on some Ray Tracing effects.

In a round a bout way. Yes.

Basically you are saying the evidence is dodgy... But you stand by the dodgy evidence 100%.

Also we need to remember that the consoles have a sizable fp2 market as well.

Often it doesn't sell more on console, often it sells best on mobile. Does that make consoles inferior? No. Does that make console sales small? Also no.

No. And disagree.

Why am I still on this? Why are you still on this? Takes two to party.

At the end of the day the PC is a bigger platform than any singular console.

But also at the end of the day, consoles are just PC's anyway.

To be fair... Forza didn't appeal to me, Dead Rising 3 was meh, Ryse was meh. Killer Instinct launched bare-bones and didn't become a good game until much later.

Forza was the only shining game in that lineup critically.

In the case of Breath of the Wild, could it have been a better game if it was designed from the ground up for Switch hardware? Visually yes. But by how much? The jump between the WiiU and Switch isn't as large as the Xbox 360 to Xbox One remember, most Wii U ports to Switch just get a framerate/resolution bump and that is it.

Well next gen is not just about RT , also many developer ditch their old engine for new one because they trying to optimize to become fully RT engine. This could only happen if the lighting are fully RT and no SR at all, and will be benefit on next gen console/PC performance when running games with RT. Old RT tech are limited on performance because it was optimize on old engine and old Uarc .  So i doubt Halo infinite to have fully RT if it's still using Screen Space reflection and other old lighting method. To be fully RT and run very well on next gen, they need  to sacrifice Xbox One port and build based on Xbox series X.