For the bolded. I can’t resist when I see these mashed up list warz lol.

GoT and Last of Us 2 is a PS4 title. Unless you referring to the inevitable remaster for PS5...but it won’t be a new game. Unlike LOU Remaster for PS4 that was enjoyed by millions of ex 360 gamers LOU2 won’t have that same benefit. The remaster will be played by a majority that all ready played the PS4 game releasing in 2 months. 

FF7 is a 3rd party times exclusive PS4 title...how does this help PS5 differentiate against Series X? (It doesn’t)

The other games you listed are A. Not announced and therefore B. No release date in sight. 

Officially, Series X has Halo Infinite, Hellblade 2, Project Mara, and Everwild coming to the platform. Officially PS5 has 0 exclusives announced so you are in no place to talk.

I could also say Fable reboot and Forza Motorsport 8, Forza Horizon 5, the Initiative new IP, Obsidians new title...but those aren’t officially announced and therefore I wont sink to the list level you gave. 

If you are going to count every crossgen title for XSX and you also think BC is great you can count all the PS4 titles that will release this year and the next as PS5 titles.

Or shall we remove the titles you listed since they will also be X1 titles?

There's no denying it, B/C is a great feature to have, and I said as much when MS announced B/C for XBO.  Personally, I wish Sony had at least done full PS1 B/C for PS4, since I have a ton of them on PSN.  However, considering this is a sales website, most here are debating things in terms of what will push sales and what won't.  It's just a fact that in the grand scheme of things, B/C does little to push sales.  It's most effective at the beginning of a gen, not 2 years into one.  And may be a little more important this time, since digital libraries have grown exponentially.

You do realize that the PS3 outsold the 360 every year of last gen, save two, right?  So, your earlier comment about 360 being more relevant for most of the gen doesn't hold water.  Unless you're talking about globally in the US.  There's no way around it, the 360 lost last gen.  Sure, it wasn't by much, but it still lost.  It helps that Sony practically handed them nearly half the gen.  Still couldn't pull that W card, though.

Lol, this false narrative, again?  I know it was calculated that this gen the average wait time between MS's announcements to releases was longer than Sony's.

It seems that MS is doing it, again.  They announced Hellblade 2 in Dec '19, saying it was very early in development.  We'll see how long that takes to come out.

You know the difference between cross gen and remasters. The main difference I am trying to convey is that cross gen is new. A remaster is a game that all ready released some time back. The hype and new feeling is gone and that’s everything on big exclusive titles in this industry. Being on X1 makes no difference to me, it’s not on PS5. 

I will accept PS4 remasters to be added to lists. But like I said they are old games with a fresh coat of paint....that’s supposed to make people bragging about their new console? Halo Infinite for example will have far more hype then a 2021 remaster of LOU2 because all that hype will be originally June 2020. 

Why yes I did realize that. That’s what happens when one sells in Japan and the other doesn’t. Still doesn’t change my opinion that Ps3 was last place until September 2013, two months before the next gen began. I’d say both sides have reasons to be happy with that gen, think that’s fair to say. 

Lol your Xbox examples don’t hold a candle to the number of games Sony announced years out that we’re on every list warz for years. Remember “Final fantasy versus 13”?, hell FF7 remake was announced what five years ago? Last Guardian rings a bell too, boy that was a long wait. GT5 released in 2010 and ever since that 2006 demo released that was on list wars for 4 years. 

That’s just off the top of my head. Xbox is no stranger to years away announcements, but Sony has been king for generations. But more importantly....why do you take this as a negative? It literally gives fans hype and inflates their list wars for years. It’s only negative for someone like me. 

Considering it was close, I will agree.

You were the one portraying announcing games more than 2 years in advance as a negative.  "Ya I’m not looking forward to hearing about games that won’t be out for 3+ years and will be on every list wars debate until they release."  And then went on to imply that MS doesn't do that, with the max being 2 years from release, which is a complete lie.  Let's just take a look at this gen for notable examples.

E3 2013
Below - Released Dec 2018 (~5 1/2 years later)
Halo 5 - Released Oct 2015 (~2 1/3 years later)
Quantum Break - Released Apr 2016 (~2 3/4 years later)

E3 2014
Crackdown 3 - Released Feb 2019 (~4 2/3 years later)
Fable Legends - Cancelled in 2016
Phantom Dust Remake - Released May 2017, as just a remaster (~3 years later)
Scalebound - Cancelled in 2017

E3 2015
Ashen - Released Dec 2018 (3 1/2 years later)
Cuphead - Released Sep 2017 (2 1/4 years later)
Sea of Thieves - Released Mar 2018 (2 3/4 years later)

E3 2017
Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Released Mar 2020 (2 3/4 years later)

E3 2018
Battletoads - TBD (It will be 2 years in June)
Halo: Infinite - Q4 2020 (It will be 2 1/2 years later)

So, yea, MS has definitely taken advantage of hyping games more than 2 years out, and some that never see the light of day.  Personally, I have no problem with it.  What I do have a problem with is Xbox diehards pushing the false narrative that Sony is the only one who does it, and therefore gets some kind of unfair advantage for doing so.

Haven't said anything about remasters. I said that with BC a game released this year for PS4 or a game crossgen on X1 and XSX for customers would have very little difference, reason why many have said the crossgen on MS may not be a good thing for HW sales.

Considering it was close, I will agree.

You were the one portraying announcing games more than 2 years in advance as a negative.  "Ya I’m not looking forward to hearing about games that won’t be out for 3+ years and will be on every list wars debate until they release."  And then went on to imply that MS doesn't do that, with the max being 2 years from release, which is a complete lie.  Let's just take a look at this gen for notable examples.

E3 2013
Below - Released Dec 2018 (~5 1/2 years later)
Halo 5 - Released Oct 2015 (~2 1/3 years later)
Quantum Break - Released Apr 2016 (~2 3/4 years later)

E3 2014
Crackdown 3 - Released Feb 2019 (~4 2/3 years later)
Fable Legends - Cancelled in 2016
Phantom Dust Remake - Released May 2017, as just a remaster (~3 years later)
Scalebound - Cancelled in 2017

E3 2015
Ashen - Released Dec 2018 (3 1/2 years later)
Cuphead - Released Sep 2017 (2 1/4 years later)
Sea of Thieves - Released Mar 2018 (2 3/4 years later)

E3 2017
Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Released Mar 2020 (2 3/4 years later)

E3 2018
Battletoads - TBD (It will be 2 years in June)
Halo: Infinite - Q4 2020 (It will be 2 1/2 years later)

So, yea, MS has definitely taken advantage of hyping games more than 2 years out, and some that never see the light of day.  Personally, I have no problem with it.  What I do have a problem with is Xbox diehards pushing the false narrative that Sony is the only one who does it, and therefore gets some kind of unfair advantage for doing so.

As far as I know, Gamespot is the major go-to website for Xbox gamers while IGN's visitors skew towards PS, so primarily US traffic doesn't automatically translate to an Xbox bias in the sample. You'd have to look at previous PS vs. Xbox polls of any kind on IGN in order to determine the bias in the sample because console sales aren't going to work.

If you then found out that, for example, a 70:30 ratio in favor of PS is the norm, then this current poll would show a loss in mindshare for PS. Conversely, if the usual ratio is 50:50, then the current poll would show an increase in mindshare for PS.

victor83fernandes said:

1 - So they should pu tin the title USA poll

2 - Xbox one X has advantages but ps5 too, this time ps5 is backwards compatible with ps4, and most people would like to play their library going forward, most people have ps4 so logic tells me those people will be moving to ps5

Other disadvantage of xbox series X is no exclusives for 2 years

One more disadvantage is its coming after xbox one, a failure, the xbox one was coming after 360, a success, so there was more xbox fans back then.

One more disadvantage this time all xbox games are on PC, unlike previous generations.

This leads me to believe the series X will do worse than xbox One.

Stronger first party? What are you talking about? All xbox games will be on PC and xbox One, there are no first party exclusives at all, have you been following the news?

And do you honestly think it can compete with Horizon Zero dawn 2, spiderman 2, last of us 2, Ghost of tsushima, final fantasy 7 remake? Wake up.

Want more? i can keep this all day, xbox series X will cost more than xbox one at launch, surely more than ps5.