d21lewis said:
thismeintiel said:
The situations are completely different, though. For one, it came out 2 years after launch and really was more to pad out their lineup, considering this is when the slowdown in exclusives started to happen. It also didn't help that it was done in stages, not just an emulator that they put out that could run 80%-90% of the 360's games.
B/C, while never the biggest selling point (maybe 5 in the Top 5 reasons to get a system), is mostly appealing at the beginning of a gen, to help smooth the transition for early adopters when the lineup is a little bare. In 2 years time, when the console is at a more acceptable price for more adopters, the lineup is going to be to the point where rarely anyone is going to go back and play those older games.
Of course, this gen we have also seen the steady uptick in digital sales and library sizes. This is going to make B/C with this gen a much more appealing prospect. Especially since both companies are looking to improve the performance of those games, both in framerate and resolution.
Given the different situations, it's pretty clear why it was naive of Xbox fans to push the narrative that B/C had won MS E3 and would cause more 360 owners to buy a XBO over a PS4.
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In arguments downplaying BC (a feature I've always appreciated), people also said "BC didn't help the Wii U" or "PS3 did better without BC". I know the argument isn't black and white. There's other factors at play. But, again, I love backwards compatibility. As soon as I bought by Wii, I sold my GameCube. As soon as I bought my PS3, I gave away my PS2.
It sucks when people tell you that something you love is worthless. Even XBO bc. I was always excited to get new and improved games added to the list. I even repurchased about 80% of the physical games I owned digitally just to take advantage of the feature. My sig (I can't see it right now. After I post, I'll take a look) which shows my last five played games on PlayStation and Xbox platforms is probably half BC titles if not more.
When I do eventually get both consoles, I plan to take full advantage of BC on both. I just like playing whatever I want to play whenever I want to play it. The addition of modern features (game DVR, screenshots, etc) on older games just makes me smile.
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There's no denying it, B/C is a great feature to have, and I said as much when MS announced B/C for XBO. Personally, I wish Sony had at least done full PS1 B/C for PS4, since I have a ton of them on PSN. However, considering this is a sales website, most here are debating things in terms of what will push sales and what won't. It's just a fact that in the grand scheme of things, B/C does little to push sales. It's most effective at the beginning of a gen, not 2 years into one. And may be a little more important this time, since digital libraries have grown exponentially.
sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:
So you will make it very simple and remove your input that core gamers care about BC and also make it even simpler "PS3 outsold X360", can`t go simpler or shorter than that?
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I will amend my post in that “not all core gamers care about BC” and “PS3 outsold 360...in the last 2 months of the gen”. That’s the best I can do :)
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You do realize that the PS3 outsold the 360 every year of last gen, save two, right? So, your earlier comment about 360 being more relevant for most of the gen doesn't hold water. Unless you're talking about globally in the US. There's no way around it, the 360 lost last gen. Sure, it wasn't by much, but it still lost. It helps that Sony practically handed them nearly half the gen. Still couldn't pull that W card, though.
sales2099 said:
KazumaKiryu said:
PlayStation 5 = Perfect West-and Japanese Games Support and big Exclusives :) Like the PS4, thats sure :)
After GHOST OF TSUSHIMA.. In summer Sony shows the big PS5-Show with many new games, unique exclusive games and beautiful graphics. I personally think.. the poll-result is bigger than 58,3% for PS5 :)
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Ya I’m not looking forward to hearing about games that won’t be out for 3+ years and will be on every list wars debate until they release. Sometimes I wish MS would do that approach more, we usually hear about games that are 1-2 years out.
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Lol, this false narrative, again? I know it was calculated that this gen the average wait time between MS's announcements to releases was longer than Sony's.
It seems that MS is doing it, again. They announced Hellblade 2 in Dec '19, saying it was very early in development. We'll see how long that takes to come out.
