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TruckOSaurus said:

A concept I have difficulty wrapping my head around is having to register to vote. Why the fuck isn't everyone automatically registered? I've never had to do that in Canada.

Short answer, federalism. States have the right to control how voting is carried out.

But, registering to vote isn't really all that tough. You practically need an ID in the US, and in NY at least, you just check a box when you apply. You also are legally required to register for the draft (somehow lots of people that think a mask mandate is going too far are fine with the government putting you in fatigues and sending you to war, but I digress) and that also registers you to vote in most places I believe. It is also a legal requirement to offer people the opportunity to register at the DMV when they get a license or whatever else, although that doesn't always happen. 

I think people not being registered is often an issue of not being registered in the correct place. Also, keep in mind the electoral college discourages many people from voting or registering. Despite the fact that I had very strong opinions in this election, and actually donated some money to support a candidate, I didn't care that much about actually voting. Because, I live in NY. Biden was going to win pretty much no matter what, and if NY was close enough that my vote would matter, then Biden would have lost in a landslide anyway.

I honestly don't care all that much. As long as people have the ability to easily register to vote (which they may not), it's a non-issue for me if they don't choose not to. I think voting is a right that should only be exercised if a person has informed themselves on the issues at hand. If it's not important enough to someone to spend the time to register, I'm fine with them not voting.

That being said, we should take steps to encourage people to be engaged, and to be willing and able to make rational decisions... but that's a much larger problem.



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TruckOSaurus said:

A concept I have difficulty wrapping my head around is having to register to vote. Why the fuck isn't everyone automatically registered? I've never had to do that in Canada.

I think that goes for most of the civilized world. The US are the only country that springs to my mind where you have to register for voting and where that's not an automatic process.

Same thing for me with not having an unique federal or national ID card in the US.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 21 November 2020

Pennsylvania judges are not impressed with Trump's legal arguments.
"Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated.
One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence.
    In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted."
    At this point, I guess you believe Donald Trump or the 30+ judges, Trump's own appointees who were tasked with monitoring the election, the governors, attorney generals, and election officials of every state, many of whom were republican, and so on.



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    Hiku said:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_get06-tgo

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    That's a pretty embarrassing video, but I don't follow the reference.



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    Once more I'll say it again: The election is over. Biden won. Trump lost. GAME OVER !!!!! And this is coming from a lifelong Republican. Stop getting your panties into a bunch!!! It's fucking over!!! Trump is as done as a Thanksgiving turkey. You Demos can all relax now.



    Nighthawk117 said:

    Once more I'll say it again: The election is over. Biden won. Trump lost. GAME OVER !!!!! And this is coming from a lifelong Republican. Stop getting your panties into a bunch!!! It's fucking over!!! Trump is as done as a Thanksgiving turkey. You Demos can all relax now.

    Uhhhhh... ok man. People are free to discuss what they want here so long as it's pertaining to the election. You're under no obligation to participate, so if you're not interested then don't. Coming into a thread to aggressively tell people not to discuss what the thread is about is not ok.