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Pemalite said:

Congratulations to the United States, you tried someone/something different with Trump which resulted in a collapsing economy, insane levels of debt and hundreds of thousands dead and endless amounts of drama, blame shifting, narcissism, bigotry, division and hate.

And you used your democratic rights to boot him out and elect someone different and competent.
Hopefully Biden can mend some of the bridge Trump ruined with us by being disrespectful to our previous prime minister.

From a personal perspective, because Trump wasn't my president, I did enjoy his antics as a joke/free entertainment, so hopefully that class-act continues on in some capacity but doesn't impede progress in the USA.

Honestly I can't see Biden winning a second term and not because he is old and likely to die but because he wasn't really a great candidate to begin with. If Trump handled COVID better he would have won easily, now that is a scary thought lol.

Like you it has no impact on me being in Australia. The only thing I can conclude from the last two elections is America is a bigger mess than Australia where people take their political views too far almost cult like. We sometimes complain about our politicians but I think any of ours are a better option than what America has got atm lol. 



 

 

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So what happens when they go full legal battle? Will they be able to bring it to the supreme court if the lower courts throw it out? Will the electors even be able to vote with an ongoing legal battle? If the electors vote, will it be possible to sue against that or is it final then? Will Trump need the full support of the party in house and/or Senate to go through with it?Legal action in US politics is weird.



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Cobretti2 said:
Pemalite said:

Congratulations to the United States, you tried someone/something different with Trump which resulted in a collapsing economy, insane levels of debt and hundreds of thousands dead and endless amounts of drama, blame shifting, narcissism, bigotry, division and hate.

And you used your democratic rights to boot him out and elect someone different and competent.
Hopefully Biden can mend some of the bridge Trump ruined with us by being disrespectful to our previous prime minister.

From a personal perspective, because Trump wasn't my president, I did enjoy his antics as a joke/free entertainment, so hopefully that class-act continues on in some capacity but doesn't impede progress in the USA.

Honestly I can't see Biden winning a second term and not because he is old and likely to die but because he wasn't really a great candidate to begin with. If Trump handled COVID better he would have won easily, now that is a scary thought lol.

Like you it has no impact on me being in Australia. The only thing I can conclude from the last two elections is America is a bigger mess than Australia where people take their political views too far almost cult like. We sometimes complain about our politicians but I think any of ours are a better option than what America has got atm lol. 

Well, Biden was a bad candidate and still won against a Trump in full force with voting records for him. Biden now has all the chance to prove himself, especially if Democrats take the Senate before his inauguration. So it can basically only go up from here for Biden and Harris. The only way I can see Biden not getting his second term is if he gets impeached.



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vivster said:

Ok, let's play a fun game. What will be the closest thing to "I lost" out of Trump's mouth? We all know he is physically incapable to say those words, so what will he say instead?

"The election was stolen from me through fraud, but I already got more done in four years than any president has ever done in eight, so I don't even need to run again. I'm going to keep winning and my businesses are doing fine. I hear they have some great golf courses in Russia..."



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vivster said:
So what happens when they go full legal battle? Will they be able to bring it to the supreme court if the lower courts throw it out? Will the electors even be able to vote with an ongoing legal battle? If the electors vote, will it be possible to sue against that or is it final then? Will Trump need the full support of the party in house and/or Senate to go through with it?Legal action in US politics is weird.

Literally nothing will happen to cbange the current results. If there are instances of fraud or glitches then the courts might rule on states to do so and so for next time but even then the fraud wont be enough to change the results. 



If the Dems allegedly stole the presidency, why wouldnt they have stolen the senate race too?



PortisheadBiscuit said:
If the Dems allegedly stole the presidency, why wouldnt they have stolen the senate race too?

I've heard this postulated every now and then and it seems to fit the current situation. One requirement of fascism is that your opponent be both all-powerful and fearful yet completely incompetent and foolish. 

https://www.faena.com/aleph/articles/umberto-eco-a-practical-list-for-identifying-fascists/

8. The enemy is both weak and strong. “[…] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”



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jason1637 said:
vivster said:
So what happens when they go full legal battle? Will they be able to bring it to the supreme court if the lower courts throw it out? Will the electors even be able to vote with an ongoing legal battle? If the electors vote, will it be possible to sue against that or is it final then? Will Trump need the full support of the party in house and/or Senate to go through with it?Legal action in US politics is weird.

Literally nothing will happen to cbange the current results. If there are instances of fraud or glitches then the courts might rule on states to do so and so for next time but even then the fraud wont be enough to change the results. 

I know it won't change the outcome, I'm asking if those proceedings have the power to delay the final decision and subsequent inauguration. Legal battles can take some time, as can recounts.



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Oh for the love of God. Trump keeps tweeting clips from Fox News where a Fox News host discusses with Republicans how it's not the role of the media to decide who won the election.

Meanwhile on Fox News:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-wins-presidency-trump-fox-news-projects



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