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Very interesting choice with Kamala. The only reasons to choose her is white liberal vote herding and coalesced media support. Of course her political positions as a hard-line prosecutor are in opposite to what's promoted right now, but a few snarky John Oliver videos about her Jewish/Indian/Jamaican upbringing "that little girl was me"-style will reprogram white libs to endorse her fully.



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Kamala Harris, the woman who like to laugh:



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I thought Susan Rice was the worst pro-war option but Kamala takes her cake away. Supporting "regime change" in Syria and Iran in the name of "war against terror" (can't have enough apostrophes here).

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>she's just another cog in the racist criminal justice system

The head of the SF public defenders' office Racial Justice Division begs to differ.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2020/08/10/kamala-harris-progressive-pioneer-san-francisco-da-column/3334668001/

Reducing weed sale cases to misdemeanors and declining to prosecute possession sounds pretty progressive to me.



newwil7l said:
Trump reversing his stance on mail in pretty much proves that he knows he is in big trouble and has no choice but to changing his stance on things that he has greatly unpopular views in.

He makes a distinction without a difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting, which is effectively the same thing, but he would never admit that.

In fact, him not waning mail-in ballots is probably very counterproductive during a pandemic which mostly kills elderly people, aka the republicans main voterbase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slY_6b9d3yw



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
newwil7l said:
Trump reversing his stance on mail in pretty much proves that he knows he is in big trouble and has no choice but to changing his stance on things that he has greatly unpopular views in.

He makes a distinction without a difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting, which is effectively the same thing, but he would never admit that.

All forms of postal voting and ballot harvesting are so prone to fraud that 15 elections had to be canceled already. If you expand that on a national scale without strict voter ID (most absentee voting has such requirements but not mail-in voting) you will with certainty end in a contested results.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/21/15-election-results-that-were-thrown-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots/

Mail-in-voting is only conceivable with strict voter ID and a transparent system to check every vote in a potential recount.



numberwang said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

He makes a distinction without a difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting, which is effectively the same thing, but he would never admit that.

All forms of postal voting and ballot harvesting are so prone to fraud that 15 elections had to be canceled already. If you expand that on a national scale without strict voter ID (most absentee voting has such requirements but not mail-in voting) you will with certainty end in a contested results.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/21/15-election-results-that-were-thrown-out-because-of-fraudulent-mail-in-ballots/

Mail-in-voting is only conceivable with strict voter ID and a transparent system to check every vote in a potential recount.

That's already in place.

Those 15 election were between 2003 and now, and all only on local level in small counties, where voter fraud from singular persons actually can have an effect. On a larger election, they just can't make up the difference and he risks therefore are too high. 15 in over 3000 elections

Also, it's generally done in favor of a Republican politician despite them always pointing at the opposite side. But of course a right-wing outlet with a strong bias and a tendency for misleading information like the daily signal wouldn't want that to be known, so of course they omitted it in their count.



NightlyPoe said:
Jaicee said:

Honestly I think part of that is just the fact that she was clearly the most hated of the prospective candidates by the conservatives

Is she?

I'm not aware of any particularly virulent hate of Harris on the right.  Outside of some hearings, and then her lackluster presidential campaign before getting nuked by Tulsi Gabbard of all people, I'm not sure she was really on the radar all that often.

I think she might be most famous for the SNL skit now that I think about it.

Yep, I'm sure! Need confirmation? Scroll down below the post I'm quoting here. Not a peep from the Trump supporters (on both the right and the left) on this thread up to now, but suddenly now that a black woman is on the ticket, here they are to voice their objections!! What a coincidence.

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NightlyPoe said:
Jaicee said:

Yep, I'm sure! Need confirmation? Scroll down below the post I'm quoting here. Not a peep from the Trump supporters (on both the right and the left) on this thread up to now, but suddenly now that a black woman is on the ticket, here they are to voice their objections!! What a coincidence.

Are we back in the Obama/Clinton days when opposing the other party, something that's been going on since Jefferson successfully drove Hamilton insane, suddenly could only be explained by the color/sex of the candidate and every Republican would be fine and dandy with Democrats in power if they were just a protestant white male?

Because that's always been ridiculously lazy, cynical, and likely counterproductive.

Besides, what does that have to do with Harris being the particular choice that would drive Republicans most crazy?  Can't be just that she's a black woman because Biden said he'd pick a woman of color over a month ago.

Let me put it this way: Have you ever wondered why Joe Biden has just been coasting to victory without hardly trying so far? Have you ever wondered why he won the Democratic nomination so quickly and easily compared to Hillary Clinton? Or why the white working class that drove the Sanders campaign in 2016 abandoned him this time around now that his opponent was a white guy? Or why Bernie was so much quicker to endorse Biden than he was to endorse Hillary Clinton? Or why the anti-Trump Republicans have publicly endorsed Joe Biden where the couldn't bring themselves to endorse Clinton? Or why the press treats the Biden campaign so much more kindly than it did Hillary Clinton's? Why no scandal or personal shortcoming seems to stick to him in the way it did to her? Or why the Trump campaign itself is so much less hostile toward Biden than it was, and still is, toward Clinton? Like why they continue to sell anti-Hillary merchandise at Trump rallies here in 2020 when she's not on the ballot, but not anti-Biden merchandise though he is? Politically and practically speaking, Joe Biden is basically just Hillary Clinton with a penis. Why does the public respond so much more favorably to him? Ever wondered about any this stuff before? Ever think there might be a reason? There is a reason. It's called sexism. People apply one standard to men and another to women.

I once partially bought into the argument that Bernie Sanders and the progressives were making that Trump "won" the 2016 election because of ideology. Joe Biden's easy coast to victory against Trump so far discredits that argument completely and utterly. The Democrats haven't had to shift to the left to move into a winning position. They just pick the same candidate but male and that's all the "correction" that appears to be needed! How can you not see this?

As to Kamala Harris seeming to be particularly offensive to Trump supporters, I base that assessment on things like content fight that broke out uniquely on Harris's Wikipedia page in the lead-up to the running mate announcement, seemingly based on a presumption that she was the most likely to get the nod. Other black women named in contention were criticized and opposed by the right of course, but not like that. The treatment that Kamala Harris received in the lead-up to this announcement was uniquely hostile among the named finalists. Conversely though, it may also be worth saying, as a refreshing antidote to all this, that the selection of Kamala Harris as Biden's running mate has also been met with a great deal of excitement on this side of the proverbial aisle. For example, the Biden campaign raised a (for Biden) record $26 million from a record number of single-day donors, including some 150,000 first-time contributors in the 24 hours after the announcement. That would be more than double his previous single-day fundraising record. Since the Biden campaign isn't doing proper rallies because of the coronavirus, these figures are the best gauge we have of Democratic enthusiasm until polling comes out on the Harris selection. The picture they paint though is clear.

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Behold the Kamala Harris birther conspiracy theory!

Because it's about issues!!

Last edited by Jaicee - on 13 August 2020