this character has grown on me..... gotta love all the meme's:

Cant believe Trump actually tweeted to "stop the counting".
Everyones vote in a election should "count", otherwise its not a fair election or democracy.

No, that was just stupid, or the claim that there were more people voting in WI than registered voters when actually people were using an outdated list of registered voters, or the picture of two ladies counting votes in Michigan using Biden masks. All most likely bollocks.

It's primarily all the mess related to main in voting and ballots arriving after the election date, people being instructed to back date ballots, dead people voting, the "typo" that generated 133k votes for Biden in Michigan, states for no reason stopping the counting of votes so it may take longer to wait to more ballots to arrive, the media calling states for Biden earlier than it should be, arizona voters having their votes not being counted because they were instructed to use a pen that cannot be read by the machines, the list goes on. As of course, the bias and censorship from media. I dont expect you to believe neither to care for any of this as you definitely wont find any of this in regular media and even if you find anything, "independent fact checkers" will call it debunked.

And at the end of the day, we usually tend to do not care when our side is winning.

I just hope that all those cases were not enough to change the course of the election and that if there is any recount, that the result achieved might be the same as we have now. USA is the max symbol of democracy for most of the world and the last thing we need in the world is the president of the most powerful nation being called "illegitimate" by half of it's populations and part of the world.

According to the Guardian Trump is up 124,874 in PA, with 956,000 estimated votes to count.

That just doesn't seem right. I remember some tweets from journalists saying there's 350,000 votes left in PA. Which source is correct?

It's a little late for that, unfortunately. Liberals claimed that Bush Jr. was illegitimate because of all the chicanery surrounding the Florida result in 2000, then conservatives claimed that Obama was illegitimate because he (supposedly) wasn't born in the USA, and then liberals claimed that Trump was illegitimate for many reasons, probably the kindest of which was the huge disparity between his popular and electoral vote totals.

The problem is, Trump and his cronies have spouted so much crap over the last few years, it's impossible to take him seriously now. Also, many of those who don't view him through rose-tinted glasses predicted that he would behave in a petulant manner if the election results showed he was losing - which he promptly did. He baselessly alleged fraud before the 2016 election as well, but made nothing of it afterwards (aside from a few moans to distract from him losing the popular vote) because he won.

It seems unlikely. I mean, "why change things when you're winning?" is usually why voting reform never happens.

355k more since the last time I looked at Pennsylvania.

72% of them favoured Biden. Lead down to 164k.

still doable.

Just curious I was younger when it happened, what was the deal with Bush and Florida? I know there was a lot of recounting and stuff, but was there anything illegal?