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EnricoPallazzo on 05 November 2020
Dulfite said:

Honestly, I feel like this election result could be the one that calms America down. If it holds, Trump will be gone, but Biden will be the first President to not have the Senate and House of Reps since the 1800's when first elected. For at least two years, the only thing he will get accomplished will be bi-partisan things, and his nominees will have to be more moderate now. Also, with Republican control over the Senate, then the Supreme Court will be protected from a hostile takeover. So basically 1.5 branches will be Democrat controlled and 1.5 Republican, nice little balance there! No one side gets decimated and therefore forgotten for at least 2 years. Both sides will have a say in what happens until at least 2022.

I will be very difficult to calm everything down because republicans will say the election was stolen, and to be honest it seems to me they have all reasons for it. I like to lurk on progressive and alt right places to see both sides reactions and I dont know if progressives are having access or seeing all the problems with this election, it really reminds me of elections in my beloved south america. Or maybe just ignoring, I dont know. Conservatives would be probably doing the same. I think it would be much better for Biden to have a clean victory that could not be contested. It is just bad for democracy.

You are right about the problems of not having the senate and congress, it is terrible and this is one of the reasons I became supporter of parliamentary (like uk) and hope that Brazil one day would do it. You win the elections it means you have the house and can move forward with your reforms. Obama would probably have done much more than he did if he had both houses for example.



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sales2099 on 05 November 2020

What’s left to consider? Seems like Biden is gonna win by the skin of his teeth.



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MrWayne on 05 November 2020

Crazy election! I hope Biden is able to flip PA, it's all he needs to become president.



TruckOSaurus on 05 November 2020
Dulfite said:

Honestly, I feel like this election result could be the one that calms America down. If it holds, Trump will be gone, but Biden will be the first President to not have the Senate and House of Reps since the 1800's when first elected. For at least two years, the only thing he will get accomplished will be bi-partisan things, and his nominees will have to be more moderate now. Also, with Republican control over the Senate, then the Supreme Court will be protected from a hostile takeover. So basically 1.5 branches will be Democrat controlled and 1.5 Republican, nice little balance there! No one side gets decimated and therefore forgotten for at least 2 years. Both sides will have a say in what happens until at least 2022.

Didn't George H. W. Bush not have both the senate and the House too?



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MrWayne on 05 November 2020
Dulfite said:

Honestly, I feel like this election result could be the one that calms America down. If it holds, Trump will be gone, but Biden will be the first President to not have the Senate and House of Reps since the 1800's when first elected. For at least two years, the only thing he will get accomplished will be bi-partisan things, and his nominees will have to be more moderate now. Also, with Republican control over the Senate, then the Supreme Court will be protected from a hostile takeover. So basically 1.5 branches will be Democrat controlled and 1.5 Republican, nice little balance there! No one side gets decimated and therefore forgotten for at least 2 years. Both sides will have a say in what happens until at least 2022.

I have serious doubt about that, my guess is that republicans will block 90% of the things that get to the senate. That's what they did so far and that's what they will do in the future.
The next 2 years will be wasted time probably.



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SecondWar on 05 November 2020
EnricoPallazzo said:
Dulfite said:

Honestly, I feel like this election result could be the one that calms America down. If it holds, Trump will be gone, but Biden will be the first President to not have the Senate and House of Reps since the 1800's when first elected. For at least two years, the only thing he will get accomplished will be bi-partisan things, and his nominees will have to be more moderate now. Also, with Republican control over the Senate, then the Supreme Court will be protected from a hostile takeover. So basically 1.5 branches will be Democrat controlled and 1.5 Republican, nice little balance there! No one side gets decimated and therefore forgotten for at least 2 years. Both sides will have a say in what happens until at least 2022.

I will be very difficult to calm everything down because republicans will say the election was stolen, and to be honest it seems to me they have all reasons for it. I like to lurk on progressive and alt right places to see both sides reactions and I dont know if progressives are having access or seeing all the problems with this election, it really reminds me of elections in my beloved south america. Or maybe just ignoring, I dont know. Conservatives would be probably doing the same. I think it would be much better for Biden to have a clean victory that could not be contested. It is just bad for democracy.

You are right about the problems of not having the senate and congress, it is terrible and this is one of the reasons I became supporter of parliamentary (like uk) and hope that Brazil one day would do it. You win the elections it means you have the house and can move forward with your reforms. Obama would probably have done much more than he did if he had both houses for example.

Can you elaborate on that? Everything I seen so far where the Trumps ide have claimed fraud has either been without merit or evidence, or a complete distortion - like where someone was supposedly removing ballots from a counting station but was actually a news station cameraman putting the camera equipment back in his van.



OlfinBedwere on 05 November 2020
TruckOSaurus said:

Didn't George H. W. Bush not have both the senate and the House too?

Yeah. In fact, throughout the Cold War era the rule of thumb was that the Republicans dominated the presidency, but the Democrats tended to be the ones in control of Congress. Nixon and Bush Sr. both got elected when the opposing party controlled both houses of Congress, and when Reagan was elected his party controlled the Senate, but not the House of Representatives.



Wman1996 on 05 November 2020

It's gonna take a miracle for Donald Trump to get re-elected. I want every vote to be counted, but it's looking like Joe Biden will be our 46th president.



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EnricoPallazzo on 05 November 2020
SecondWar said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

I will be very difficult to calm everything down because republicans will say the election was stolen, and to be honest it seems to me they have all reasons for it. I like to lurk on progressive and alt right places to see both sides reactions and I dont know if progressives are having access or seeing all the problems with this election, it really reminds me of elections in my beloved south america. Or maybe just ignoring, I dont know. Conservatives would be probably doing the same. I think it would be much better for Biden to have a clean victory that could not be contested. It is just bad for democracy.

You are right about the problems of not having the senate and congress, it is terrible and this is one of the reasons I became supporter of parliamentary (like uk) and hope that Brazil one day would do it. You win the elections it means you have the house and can move forward with your reforms. Obama would probably have done much more than he did if he had both houses for example.

Can you elaborate on that? Everything I seen so far where the Trumps ide have claimed fraud has either been without merit or evidence, or a complete distortion - like where someone was supposedly removing ballots from a counting station but was actually a news station cameraman putting the camera equipment back in his van.

No, that was just stupid, or the claim that there were more people voting in WI than registered voters when actually people were using an outdated list of registered voters, or the picture of two ladies counting votes in Michigan using Biden masks. All most likely bollocks.

It's primarily all the mess related to main in voting and ballots arriving after the election date, people being instructed to back date ballots, dead people voting, the "typo" that generated 133k votes for Biden in Michigan, states for no reason stopping the counting of votes so it may take longer to wait to more ballots to arrive, the media calling states for Biden earlier than it should be, arizona voters having their votes not being counted because they were instructed to use a pen that cannot be read by the machines, the list goes on. As of course, the bias and censorship from media. I dont expect you to believe neither to care for any of this as you definitely wont find any of this in regular media and even if you find anything, "independent fact checkers" will call it debunked.

And at the end of the day, we usually tend to do not care when our side is winning.

I just hope that all those cases were not enough to change the course of the election and that if there is any recount, that the result achieved might be the same as we have now. USA is the max symbol of democracy for most of the world and the last thing we need in the world is the president of the most powerful nation being called "illegitimate" by half of it's populations and part of the world.



OlfinBedwere on 05 November 2020
EnricoPallazzo said:

I just hope that all those cases were not enough to change the course of the election and that if there is any recount, that the result achieved might be the same as we have now. USA is the max symbol of democracy for most of the world and the last thing we need in the world is the president of the most powerful nation being called "illegitimate" by half of it's populations and part of the world.

It's a little late for that, unfortunately. Liberals claimed that Bush Jr. was illegitimate because of all the chicanery surrounding the Florida result in 2000, then conservatives claimed that Obama was illegitimate because he (supposedly) wasn't born in the USA, and then liberals claimed that Trump was illegitimate for many reasons, probably the kindest of which was the huge disparity between his popular and electoral vote totals.