The first major goalpost moving that occured is that the thread changed from "Nintendo has no physical games scheduled for release" to "Now that they have a few games scheduled for release, let's find something else to complain about and pretend that this thread continues to have legitimitacy."
You want to be seen as rational, yet you finish your post with further goalpost moving by including a Square-Enix published game on a Nintendo list. It's bad enough that some people want to count mere publishing duties as a Nintendo game (that would be Octopath Traveler and Bravely Default 2), but you take the leap to include The World Ends With You which Nintendo has nothing to do with. Furthermore, you added the digital-only Pokémon Quest.
What's even more puzzling is your comment about four new exciting Sony games for the PS4 in 2020. What are they? I can assume that you include Dreams which flopped, so why should that be counted as an exciting game; talk about hyperbole. Then there's The Last of Us 2 which was met with a mixed reception by gamers, hence why this June release has dropped out of the PSN's top 20 list in both North America and Europe by August already; the game sold well as long as the hype lasted and that was it. Ghost of Tsushima is a game that meets the criteria of new and exciting, but what's the fourth game? The yearly MLB game? The reason why Sony can have those games in the last year of the PS4 is because they took longer than expected to finish.
But aside from goalpost moving, another popular tactic is the double standard where one company (Nintendo) will be blamed for everything while another one (Sony) will be played up as doing great when both Dreams and The Last of Us 2 weren't meant to be 2020 games to begin with and only ended up there due to mismanagement. There's no reason to be impressed by Sony's 2020 output.
Rol you are treating the thread as if it was a prediction thread, with the prediction that Nintendo would have zero new releases for the rest of 2020. But it wasn't that as evidenced by this part of OP's post...
I realize that there's a good chance this will be remedied by the end of the month. If nothing else, their fiscal year is ending and they'll want to brag about their slate and Xenoblade seems like it's already been rated in some territories so it's probably coming soonish. But I wanted to mark this strange moment in time.
So OP acknowledges that Nintendo will likely have a release in Xenoblade HD, but the thread was predicting that Nintendo would have no releases in 2020? That just doesn't make any sense. The OP makes a lot more sense when taken as OP showing general dismay at Nintendo's overall 2020 output, and communication with fans.
TWEWY Final Remix was published by Nintendo outside of Japan, which means Nintendo did in fact have something to do with it. Whether a game is digital or physical doesn't matter. All that matters is that the game was released in 2018. But I do understand your complaints. And that's my point. We can be rational, only including new non-toy, non-free, developed games by Nintendo, or at the very least containing a Nintendo IP, or being a 2nd party offering. Or we can throw reason to the wind, and start including basically anything and everything. The funny thing is that using either method shows 2018 to be far superior to 2020. My argument is a dilemma style argument.
1. Either we can can include only non-toy, non-free, games developed by Nintendo, or at the very least containing a Nintendo IP, or being a 2nd party offering.
2. Or we can include virtually every game under the sun.
3. If we use method 1. 2018 has a better lineup.
4.If we use method 2 2018 still has a better lineup.
5. Therefore 2018 has a better lineup.
I already made a post naming the four games that Sony has for 2020, and no, I didn't say they were all for PS4. Sales aren't the be all and end all of whether a game is exciting or not. Earthbound, Musha, and a ton of other 16 bit games never sold well, but are now highly sought after, and emulated. Animal Crossing took longer than expected to finish as well. You can't use delays at one company to dismiss games, but ignore the delays of another company.
Im starting to see that random forum posters are now trying to dismiss the affect a global pandemic could have had on Nintendo. One poster claims the delay should only been 2 months lol, somehow he is an expert. Apparently 4 games from Sony during the pandemic is proof Nintendo should have more and this is all according to some random person on the internet. Armchair analyst at its finest! This thread is really starting to get embarrassing, its nothing more than this does or doesn't count because I said so. I know better than Nintendo because I said so, Nintendo is lazy and clearly struggling because I said so. My advice to you Cerebore is give that advice to Sony because clearly you are a big fan. Ninty will clearly continue to do what they believe is best because they said so!
I'd be grateful if you presented something other than a strawman argument. Thanks.
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P.S. I own more games for Nintendo consoles, than I do for Sony consoles. That should tell you where my fandom lies.