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Cerebralbore101 said:

The topic was that Nintendo didn't have any games scheduled for release at that moment in time. OP even said that it was likely to be remedied quickly. That doesn't equal a prediction that Nintendo wasn't going to have any games scheduled for release at all.

Ports and remakes are important, but they are far overshadowed in importance by actual new games. Suppose Nintendo stops making new games entirely. For the next 20 years, they just do ports and remakes.  Meanwhile other companies are making new games. Should Nintendo be regarded as having better output than any other game company in that hypothetical scenario?

Sorry about the SMG2 claim. I misremembered a decade old article from a gaming magazine. The initial title was SMG 1.5 or SMG More, or something like that. I likened that to DLC, incorrectly.

Torna is actually DLC, but I still count that as a great game for 2018, so I hope you can understand why I and others see Miles Morales as something worth mentioning. It's not DLC, but probably started off life that way at some point. Besides, I'd rather have a spin-off that has the core gameplay of the thing it's spinning off from, than what Age of Calamity is.

P.S. Fingers still crossed that Age of Calamity is actually good. Here's hoping!

At this point I am convinced that your are acting deliberately obtuse regarding what this thread is about. You keep repeating the word 'prediction' despite nobody in this thread ever taking it as a prediction thread. Nintendo has a defined release schedule now, so the problem this thread was about has been solved. But not everyone was willing to accept that the thread was done for, so the discussion shifted to something entirely different. I reiterate that the current kind of discussion should have been a new thread all along because it doesn't belong here where it's a straightforward "games or no games dated for release."

Your hypothetical scenario is completely and utterly pointless, because it's 100% unrealistic and you know it.

Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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I am having a very fun time with my Switch this year so I don’t know what you are talking about Celebralbore, saying most gamers agree with you. Are you an ambassador for gamers?

I am a Nintendo fanatic.

Kai_Mao said:
Fight-the-Streets said:

I agree. I can remember that Nintendo's President Shuntaro Furukawa said not too long ago that (on a Q&A of a financial report I guess) that they are currently not interested in buying 3rd party studios because it would be very difficult to infuse into them the Nintendo identity (which stands for a special Nintendo quality, creativity and innovation). Although, I personally think there are lots of talented 3rd party studios around that would complement Nintendo's lineup with more diversity and the respective 3rd party studio's own quality identity, even if we would agree with this statement it still begs the question why then not build-up new in-house teams? They have plenty of money to pay the best talents in the industry and to pay for additional space needed, hell, they could even invent their own talent pool, kind of a Nintendo university to instruct young talented people from the ground-up, surely many of them would want to work for Nintendo afterwards.

It is by far the biggest critic I have on Nintendo: Why not use some of your money to build new development teams? It would ultimately result in having much less (quality) software droughts (and would quell most of such critical threads like this one).

Nintendo has been hiring new graduates to be part of their development teams so they're kinda doing what you're saying in the last sentence of your first paragraph.

As far as developing teams, it would take months (if not years) before they could even start up, let alone develop a game. Nintendo is already managing multiple teams within EPD and teams such as iQue, Retro Studios, NDCube, and Monolith Soft, let alone working with developers such as Intelligent Systems, HAL, Game Freak, Good Feel, Grezzo, Next Level Games, Camelot, Genius Sonority, and Sora, Ltd. There are other teams and studios Nintendo has or are working with that we don't even mention much because they either are working on smaller titles or are mostly support teams.

I don't know what's the mindset of Nintendo in regards on what they spend and how much they spend on projects. But they seem to have a grasp on what they need or not need at this time. If they feel that a new in-house team will not be financially worth it, then that's their stance.

Edit: Not to mention Nintendo is continuously working with third party developers to develop new games. Astral Chain from Platinum Games is an example, as well as the recently announced Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity from Koei Tecmo. Koei Tecmo even developed Fire Emblem Three Houses alongside some of Intelligent Systems' team members.

I know, Nintendo has its hand in a lot of projects but still, personally, I wish they would build more in-house teams. But maybe Nintendo is very wise: They probably know that inflating the market with two many games (1st and 3rd party) would devaluate the worth of each individual game. For example, if Nintendo would bring out a new Action-Adventure on the quality level of a Zelda game each quarter, it would be fantastic initially but after a while very boring, even if the games would be very different from each other, the seen it, been there-mood would eventually would catch up and an overall lack of excitement would set in.

During the NES days, Nintendo was very draconic re how many games each 3rd party developer could publish each year. Nintendo got very criticised for that practice but Nintendo knew that the games industry crash in the US happened partly because the market got flooded with trash games. I think they did the right thing. Interestingly, what we observe now is that the indy-market is flooded with too many trash games. It think it's time for the platform holders to have higher requirements for quality in their respective e-shops before a game can be released.

NightlyPoe said:
Maynard_Tool said:
Damn this thread keeps on going? Seriously? People sometimes get stuck so much with their ideas, is not easy for them to simple say “ok, i overreacted, i was wrong; lets move on” ? Trying to prove your preferences as the only truth out there, is just so narrow minded, people need to remember that.

Umm, wrong about what?  And, what overreaction?  If anything, I think time has proven that the March version of me that started this thread was overly optimistic.  If you'd told me in March that Nintendo would only release two more new games and not have a big holiday title, I wouldn't have believed you.  Yet here we are.

If you'd like to come in and discuss the situation rationally, it would be nice, but why come in just to crap on people?  What is the purpose of the drive-by?

The opening statement of this thread was “besides AC, nintendo has 0 games dated for release beyond it”

so I guess 2020 is going by with no other games? This is not overreactiNg? Im not crapping at anyone but with an opening statement like that, what else could anyone expect?

paper mario, hyrule warriors, mario kart, pikmin, 3D all stars.... are those not Nintendo games?

Oh wait, you are complaining about not having a big holiday game (so far)? That has nothing to do with the initial statement. You are complaining  about old games being re released, again that was not the point of this thread. The games Nintendo launch are not for you, nor you find them good enough? Subjective, not everyone has to like everything you do.

If you want to discuss about quality, preferences or what ever, that’s fine, we can do that. But this thread wasn’t about that. It was just a rant about not knowing what was coming in the near future. It was even mentioned back then “there is a good chance this will be remedied”.... guess what? It was, Nintendo released more games that just AC.

this thread didn’t have any other direction to go but this one;  it was a wrong one, nothing awful about that. Move on, let it die, start a new thread if you feel the need to with a new approach.