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setsunatenshi on 25 February 2020
taus90 said:

So MS released bunch of new info regarding xbox series X which was already known, yet it was enough to send fanboys on the internet into frenzy, even though they haven't given out any details that we already didn't know about, nothing yet on amount of RAM, clock speed, gpu specs etc.. but i digress. My point is what is Sony thinking are they misreading the market or they are just not ready with the system. I am not saying that 2006 arrogant sony is back, but the silence over PS5 is getting really annoying, this reminds of the quote by KAZ during ps3 reveal "next generation doesn't start untill we say it does". 

What is going at Sony? I conjured up few scenario based on the words going around on the web.

1. Sony is not ready to reveal PS5 and waiting game to see what MS does regarding the price? 

If they are not ready why even do a wired interview? and if they are playing the waiting game to see what MS is going to price their console, than it just doesn't make any sense.. coz MS is not going to announce the price before e3 2020 and i doubt sony will wait till JUNE to give new details about PS5.

2. Its under powered and Sony is afraid that it will get negative press and set a narrative of 12 vs 9 tf

If its under powered than no amount of delaying the reveal is going to control the damage. it is bound to happen, like it did with Xbox one and PS4. Just reveal the hardware and then for the rest of the year rely on showcasing your strongest asset which are exclusives.

3. It is as powerful or more powerful than series X, and again waiting to see what MS TF numbers are.

Same as point 1. why wait? i m sure that internally these guys know each others target performance will be. not to mention during ps4 it was Sony who came out first and announced their TF number. If Sony were waiting on MS to confirm the TF number.. then hear we go we have the number and vague details, nothing is stopping Sony giving out the same details and reveal the console, and announce the price around E3 

My theory is that, the rumors that sony were planning a 2019 release were true. And the people involved like andrew house, Yoshida, Kaz, shawn layden were the ones who were planning a 2019 release.. And higher Exec saw that 2019 ps5 will be severely under powered in a years time by series x they had to restructure the entire project and reshuffle those incharge.

So maybe the new guys. Herman, Jim Ryan were caught off guard on the best way to reveal PS5 and pulling out of e3 didnt help either. So hopefully for the sake of gamer's I do hope Sony messes up this gen and feel the heat from Xbox.

EDIT

This is just a discussion, not an analysis on how off base I am, everything above is based on speculation and observation, Just wanna know what you guys think why SONY is being quiet.

It's absolutely fine to speculate and all, but that's one ridiculous click baity title for the thread.

My dude... mess up this gen? No hyperbole at all right there at all. And based on fuckin nothing to make it worse...



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RJTM1991 on 25 February 2020
Bandorr said:
RJTM1991 said:

Have a look at the Tweets in this thread. Sony America taking it upon themselves to decide what Japan does and doesn't get. You don't see a problem with that?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-apparently-forcing-japanese-only-games-to-go-under-english-inspections.77364/

One site may be bad, but what about Push Square? Or any other site that covers Sony's censorship policies?

Do a quick Google search. This shit isn't popular.

I'm not going to do your work for you.  Just because you use poor sources.  While reading about why DMC5 still has the lens flair in europe is interesting, blaming sony for Censoring something they didn't is poor. That it is on multiple consoles makes the argument worse. And that it was because for ratiings blows the argument out of the water. In turn making me question a source that can get just ONE game THAT wrong.

The same with suggestion that someone NOT wanting to sell 18+ games ISN'T up to them.

And you just linked to a thread that was locked for

The OP and original source are thin on details, and we are not able to verify the accuracy of any part of the story at this time. This thread will therefore remain locked."
Maybe that moderator was power tripping what is the previous comment.
"Do we actually know in detail what these policies are about? Can't find anything about it and it's pretty important for the discussion to know if this is about underage stuff and sexual assault or just 'hot adult women in bikinis'. I don't see an issue with a hot adult woman but I'm all for a policy that deals with harassment and sexualized children.

Until we know what the policy actually is I don't see much point in discussing it"
And all it was was linking to a tweet (with about 8 comments) linking to a thread where again it seems to be whining about Sony not wanting to get into 18+ games.
"It costs them a lot more time and money when each country already has their own rating boards." in the twitter thread is a good argument. Wanting to Force Sony to sell 18+ games isn't.
Just as in the political thread - discussing these thing with you are a waste of time. You continually bring poor sources, or ones that have nothing to do with the issue at hand. While dodging questions. I'll treat you here the same as I do there -as if you don't exist. Have a good day.

Deleted dumb comment.

Last edited by RJTM1991 - on 16 December 2023

kazuyamishima on 25 February 2020

PS4 is Doomed and Ps5 will be too.

Poor Sony :(



dharh on 25 February 2020

Coronavirus could very well kill the next gens launch. More than any of this fan stuff.



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Darwinianevolution on 25 February 2020
dharh said:
Coronavirus could very well kill the next gens launch. More than any of this fan stuff.

This is an oddly possible outcome. I mean, if factories can't really handle the demand due to the paranoia and this results in lower sales due to lack of units, would there be a panic going around publishers about next gen's viability? Would delaying the next gen be better?



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Bofferbrauer2 on 25 February 2020

I do think next gen will have a slow start.

The reason for this is that in their hunt for more power, they'll have to increase the prices, too. I mean, I don't expect them to be anywhere near as cheap to produce as XBO/PS4 were at their release. So unless the consoles would be heavily subventionized, they will be quite a bit more expensive at release, limiting their sales early on.



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

Keiji on 25 February 2020
JRPGfan said:

Sony is keeping quiet, because they want to announce the PS5 at a lower price point than Xbox Series X.

Sony has PS4 selling well enough, and still wants to keep selling games on it, so announceing early doesnt make too much sense.
Rather, keeping quiet for aslong as possible, is a way to ensure extra profits. Ontop of this, they want to make 100% sure, that if their unit is "weaker" than the series X, that its atleast sold cheaper.  Until Xbox comes out offically with a price point, Sony wont mention anything.

If PS5 is actually weaker, rather than go into a "spec numbers" war with Xbox series X on social media, they ll just show a sleugh of fantastic looking games & exclusives, and announce a cheaper price point.

This.

But OP you're funny I like you.

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Random_Matt on 25 February 2020

Playstation always wins, pointless thread.



derpysquirtle64 on 25 February 2020

I don't think that Sony being silent when Xbox sharing info on next gen console is something that can be seen as a sign that Sony will mess up somehow. They both can mess up with around equal possibility. We are still almost one year before the launch. Anything can go wrong for both sides. Bad presentation, bad pricing, bad games, etc.

Bandorr said:
RJTM1991 said:

Have a look at the Tweets in this thread. Sony America taking it upon themselves to decide what Japan does and doesn't get. You don't see a problem with that?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-apparently-forcing-japanese-only-games-to-go-under-english-inspections.77364/

One site may be bad, but what about Push Square? Or any other site that covers Sony's censorship policies?

Do a quick Google search. This shit isn't popular.

I'm not going to do your work for you.  Just because you use poor sources.  While reading about why DMC5 still has the lens flair in europe is interesting, blaming sony for Censoring something they didn't is poor. That it is on multiple consoles makes the argument worse. And that it was because for ratiings blows the argument out of the water. In turn making me question a source that can get just ONE game THAT wrong.

The same with suggestion that someone NOT wanting to sell 18+ games ISN'T up to them.

And you just linked to a thread that was locked for

The OP and original source are thin on details, and we are not able to verify the accuracy of any part of the story at this time. This thread will therefore remain locked."
Maybe that moderator was power tripping what is the previous comment.
"Do we actually know in detail what these policies are about? Can't find anything about it and it's pretty important for the discussion to know if this is about underage stuff and sexual assault or just 'hot adult women in bikinis'. I don't see an issue with a hot adult woman but I'm all for a policy that deals with harassment and sexualized children.

Until we know what the policy actually is I don't see much point in discussing it"
And all it was was linking to a tweet (with about 8 comments) linking to a thread where again it seems to be whining about Sony not wanting to get into 18+ games.
"It costs them a lot more time and money when each country already has their own rating boards." in the twitter thread is a good argument. Wanting to Force Sony to sell 18+ games isn't.
Have a good day - I'm done.

It is not on Xbox. At least in original version of the game. Same with PC. Not great to spread false facts.

Random_Matt said:
Playstation always wins, pointless thread.

They didn't last gen though. And maybe won't this gen.



 

derpysquirtle64 on 25 February 2020
CGI-Quality said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

They didn't last gen though. And maybe won't this gen.

So, Switch is an 8th gen machine?

It is complicated to say exactly which gen it is at this moment. But VGC considers it as 8 gen machine, so I believe that is how Switch is viewed at the moment.