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eva01beserk said:
Azzanation said:

No doubt this might cause companies to do there own thing however you also need to remember that MS own Azure Cloud, so those wanting to do Streaming will most likely create there own App or platform however they will still need to rent the Streaming services and that will profit MS all the same. Azure is apparently a very good network which is outpacing Googles network so when it comes to Streaming gaming, Azure seems to be a no brainer choice. Also Sony signed up to use Azure so technically the more popular PSN becomes is more revenue for MS as well. 

Either the companies let Game Pass and XCloud do the Streaming for them or they rent out Azure to Stream there own content. Either way is a positive and MS. MS are also in a really good position for this. Sure they can rent out Amazon or Google's Network however from what we are seeing, Azure is doing game Streaming better so its another reason to use MS Network.

Better is relative. If google has lower performance they could charge less and could still be considered better cuz of it. We are also talking about trillion dollar companies with MS google and amazon here, on a days notice they could each invest 10's of billions and each have better services. just recently the US government announced that they are partnering with AMD ryzen and Nvidia to have the worlds most powerful server farm and/or super computer and google announced shortly after that they want to one up them. And im willing to bet is just for bragging rights. 

Better is better for the customer. Customers want the best experience for there money and so far Azure is doing it better than Google based off the beta testing. Sure these companies can invest billions more into there infrastructures however these things don't happen over night, by the time they upgrade all there server farms, next gen would have started and companies will need to have made these deals now not later.

Streaming is going to improve yearly as better internet and servers come out, that is a no brainer however so far, with what's available, not many companies are going to skip Azure as we have seen even Sony could have gone with someone else instead they went with MS there direct console competitor because maybe Azure is the best deal for value going around currently. Also MS make Xbox, a dedicated gaming platform with history of success, I doubt companies will opt for Google as they are still unknown on there success in this industry.



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Azzanation said:
eva01beserk said:

Better is relative. If google has lower performance they could charge less and could still be considered better cuz of it. We are also talking about trillion dollar companies with MS google and amazon here, on a days notice they could each invest 10's of billions and each have better services. just recently the US government announced that they are partnering with AMD ryzen and Nvidia to have the worlds most powerful server farm and/or super computer and google announced shortly after that they want to one up them. And im willing to bet is just for bragging rights. 

Better is better for the customer. Customers want the best experience for there money and so far Azure is doing it better than Google based off the beta testing. Sure these companies can invest billions more into there infrastructures however these things don't happen over night, by the time they upgrade all there server farms, next gen would have started and companies will need to have made these deals now not later.

Streaming is going to improve yearly as better internet and servers come out, that is a no brainer however so far, with what's available, not many companies are going to skip Azure as we have seen even Sony could have gone with someone else instead they went with MS there direct console competitor because maybe Azure is the best deal for value going around currently. Also MS make Xbox, a dedicated gaming platform with history of success, I doubt companies will opt for Google as they are still unknown on there success in this industry.

Are you kidding? Google is the number 1 company in all relating video streaming with youtube, they have google the number one search engine. they control like 80% of all online adds. They are already dominating the internet infrastructure. I would not doubt that they have the best server farms already in the market, just that they already split it into so many services that they offer. Im not telling you that stadia will dominate cuz of it. Would be stupid as no one wants to buy the games again on another platform. But I do see google also offering their services to other companies. And yes, better is better. But 10% better for double(hyperbole) the price is crazzy. There are always tiers.

Also theese companys upgrade their infrastructures on a yearly basis. Either making a new farm, or replacing an old one with better components. they dont like being behind and they have the $$$ to always stay on top. So the edge azure has could be a one year thing, after that I expect at least parity from the top industries. 



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eva01beserk said:
Azzanation said:

Better is better for the customer. Customers want the best experience for there money and so far Azure is doing it better than Google based off the beta testing. Sure these companies can invest billions more into there infrastructures however these things don't happen over night, by the time they upgrade all there server farms, next gen would have started and companies will need to have made these deals now not later.

Streaming is going to improve yearly as better internet and servers come out, that is a no brainer however so far, with what's available, not many companies are going to skip Azure as we have seen even Sony could have gone with someone else instead they went with MS there direct console competitor because maybe Azure is the best deal for value going around currently. Also MS make Xbox, a dedicated gaming platform with history of success, I doubt companies will opt for Google as they are still unknown on there success in this industry.

Are you kidding? Google is the number 1 company in all relating video streaming with youtube, they have google the number one search engine. they control like 80% of all online adds. They are already dominating the internet infrastructure. I would not doubt that they have the best server farms already in the market, just that they already split it into so many services that they offer.

No, for video streaming AWS is on top. They have Netflix + Amazon Prime Video + Twitch + Facebook video

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/netflix-15-percent-internet-bandwidth-worldwide-study-1202963207/

Besides that, it depends on several factors, which of the big three cloud providers is "the best":

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-top-cloud-providers-of-2020-aws-microsoft-azure-google-cloud-hybrid-saas/

https://www.apptunix.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-cloud-platform/



Conina said:
eva01beserk said:

Are you kidding? Google is the number 1 company in all relating video streaming with youtube, they have google the number one search engine. they control like 80% of all online adds. They are already dominating the internet infrastructure. I would not doubt that they have the best server farms already in the market, just that they already split it into so many services that they offer.

No, for video streaming AWS is on top. They have Netflix + Amazon Prime Video + Twitch + Facebook video

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/netflix-15-percent-internet-bandwidth-worldwide-study-1202963207/

Besides that, it depends on several factors, which of the big three cloud providers is "the best":

https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-top-cloud-providers-of-2020-aws-microsoft-azure-google-cloud-hybrid-saas/

https://www.apptunix.com/blog/aws-vs-azure-vs-google-cloud-platform/

Is that it? Read the first sentence and ignore everything else? Will you address what I said on the rest of it? How they have all other services splitting the use of their infrastructure.



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eva01beserk said:

Is that it? Read the first sentence and ignore everything else? Will you address what I said on the rest of it? How they have all other services splitting the use of their infrastructure.

I pointed out your obvious error that "Google is the number 1 company in all relating video streaming". What more do you want?

"they have google the number one search engine." - Yes they do. What has that to do in a discussion about cloud services and cloud based video streaming?

"they control like 80% of all online adds." - What has that to do in a discussion about cloud services and cloud based video streaming?

"They are already dominating the internet infrastructure." - Depends on the context. If we are talking about search engines, then yes. If we are talking about online shopping, then Amazon is dominating  the internet infrastructure. If we are talking about other aspects of the internet infrastructure, then Microsoft or Apple will be on top. If we are talking about cloud services, Azure, AWS and Google Cloud all have their advantages and disadvantages.

I would not doubt that they have the best server farms already in the market, just that they already split it into so many services that they offer. - Based on what? On your gut feeling? Microsoft and Amazon also "split into so many services that they offer".



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Conina said:
eva01beserk said:

Is that it? Read the first sentence and ignore everything else? Will you address what I said on the rest of it? How they have all other services splitting the use of their infrastructure.

I pointed out your obvious error that "Google is the number 1 company in all relating video streaming". What more do you want?

"they have google the number one search engine." - Yes they do. What has that to do in a discussion about cloud services and cloud based video streaming?

"they control like 80% of all online adds." - What has that to do in a discussion about cloud services and cloud based video streaming?

"They are already dominating the internet infrastructure." - Depends on the context. If we are talking about search engines, then yes. If we are talking about online shopping, then Amazon is dominating  the internet infrastructure. If we are talking about other aspects of the internet infrastructure, then Microsoft or Apple will be on top. If we are talking about cloud services, Azure, AWS and Google Cloud all have their advantages and disadvantages.

I would not doubt that they have the best server farms already in the market, just that they already split it into so many services that they offer. - Based on what? On your gut feeling? Microsoft and Amazon also "split into so many services that they offer".

Should be clear, google is the only company that is almost 100% based around internet infrastructures and services. Could they still be second to another is probable, but even without any more info just basing it on what the companies do I would bet on google having the net biggest.



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haxxiy said:

The only way to overcome shitty behavior from shitty companies is we as consumers acting consciously when buying and also electing representatives that keep shenaningans like these from being legal.

Unless companies that are "nice" start to steadily outperform those that aren't, this will continue.

You want government to legislate video game distribution?  I can't think of a worse thing that could happen to gaming.  



Update:

"Bethesda Softworks, a maker of many popular titles such as the DOOM, Fallout, Wolfenstein, and The Elder Scrolls series, has decided to pull a big part of its game library from the NVIDIA GeForce NOW game streaming service. In another surprising turn of events, a part of NVIDIA staff announced that Bethesda Softworks will pull most of its games form the GeForce NOW platform, excluding Wolfenstein Youngblood, which will remain playable to give users a chance to experience it with "RTX on". "


First Activision Blizzard games, and almost all Bethesda games.... Wouldnt be surprised if even more join in and do simular.

source :  https://www.techpowerup.com/264156/bethesda-removes-games-from-geforce-now-game-streaming-service



I love how the industry is killing streaming faster than the market itself. This is just like tv streaming, only when the chips go down, there will be only a couple of big streaming services left alive. Gaming is not allowing a single streaming service to prosper to that point, so the entire concept will die before it even takes root.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

After Activision Blizzard, Bethesda, Capcom, EA, Konami, Remedy, Rockstar and Square Enix, what's the point of this anymore?

Really unfortunate developments.