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Dulfite said:
Nu-13 said:

Sarcasm?

No. Think of what an extra $120 could do for adding to what the Switch brings internally. Plus newer tech now.

The dock and joycons do not cost anywhere near $120, or $100, or $80... And hardware revisions are not meant to provide more power. That's what new consoles are for.



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Nu-13 said:
Dulfite said:

No. Think of what an extra $120 could do for adding to what the Switch brings internally. Plus newer tech now.

The dock and joycons do not cost anywhere near $120, or $100, or $80... And hardware revisions are not meant to provide more power. That's what new consoles are for.

Joy cons are $69.99 new and licensed

Docks are $70-80 new and licensed.

So more like $140-150 they could save not proving those parts and boost the power of the Switch 2. They could sell a $450 valued Switch 2 for $300 and make the same amount by not providing joycons and socks due to people already having them.

Oh and I don't want hardware revision. I'm talking about Switch 2. I don't believe in this silly Pro/New devices that Xbox with with the One X, or PlayStation did with the PS4 Pro, or Nintendo did with New 3ds. That's nonsense. Give me a new device, giant leap forward, every 6 years. You want to make a bottom of the barrel cheap one? Cool, but no pros!



Dulfite said:
Nu-13 said:

The dock and joycons do not cost anywhere near $120, or $100, or $80... And hardware revisions are not meant to provide more power. That's what new consoles are for.

Joy cons are $69.99 new and licensed

Docks are $70-80 new and licensed.

So more like $140-150 they could save not proving those parts and boost the power of the Switch 2. They could sell a $450 valued Switch 2 for $300 and make the same amount by not providing joycons and socks due to people already having them.

Oh and I don't want hardware revision. I'm talking about Switch 2. I don't believe in this silly Pro/New devices that Xbox with with the One X, or PlayStation did with the PS4 Pro, or Nintendo did with New 3ds. That's nonsense. Give me a new device, giant leap forward, every 6 years. You want to make a bottom of the barrel cheap one? Cool, but no pros!

You will see a switch 2 in 2022 and it should be around 8x more powerful than the switch. Anyway those are retail prices with huge profit margins.



Nu-13 said:
Dulfite said:

Joy cons are $69.99 new and licensed

Docks are $70-80 new and licensed.

So more like $140-150 they could save not proving those parts and boost the power of the Switch 2. They could sell a $450 valued Switch 2 for $300 and make the same amount by not providing joycons and socks due to people already having them.

Oh and I don't want hardware revision. I'm talking about Switch 2. I don't believe in this silly Pro/New devices that Xbox with with the One X, or PlayStation did with the PS4 Pro, or Nintendo did with New 3ds. That's nonsense. Give me a new device, giant leap forward, every 6 years. You want to make a bottom of the barrel cheap one? Cool, but no pros!

You will see a switch 2 in 2022 and it should be around 8x more powerful than the switch. Anyway those are retail prices with huge profit margins.

Make it March 2023 so Switch can have full 6 year life-time, after all it's not a failure like Wii U, no need to rush Switch 2 even if they never release Switch Pro.



Nu-13 said:
Dulfite said:

Joy cons are $69.99 new and licensed

Docks are $70-80 new and licensed.

So more like $140-150 they could save not proving those parts and boost the power of the Switch 2. They could sell a $450 valued Switch 2 for $300 and make the same amount by not providing joycons and socks due to people already having them.

Oh and I don't want hardware revision. I'm talking about Switch 2. I don't believe in this silly Pro/New devices that Xbox with with the One X, or PlayStation did with the PS4 Pro, or Nintendo did with New 3ds. That's nonsense. Give me a new device, giant leap forward, every 6 years. You want to make a bottom of the barrel cheap one? Cool, but no pros!

You will see a switch 2 in 2022 and it should be around 8x more powerful than the switch. Anyway those are retail prices with huge profit margins.

So? They are a retail company so that's all that matters to them.

And 6 years, not 5.



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Radek said:
Nu-13 said:

You will see a switch 2 in 2022 and it should be around 8x more powerful than the switch. Anyway those are retail prices with huge profit margins.

Make it March 2023 so Switch can have full 6 year life-time, after all it's not a failure like Wii U, no need to rush Switch 2 even if they never release Switch Pro.

Read bellow.

Dulfite said:
Nu-13 said:

You will see a switch 2 in 2022 and it should be around 8x more powerful than the switch. Anyway those are retail prices with huge profit margins.

So? They are a retail company so that's all that matters to them.

And 6 years, not 5.

Holidays 2022 is basically 6 years after the switch.



Dulfite said:
My predictions for the Super Switch:

Nintendo Sneak attack by revealing it will use the original Switch dock, controllers, and joycons, thereby allowing them to build $80 for joycons and $40 for dock = $120 value into the Super Switch, still charging $300 for it when it launches even though it funtions more like a $420 console, enabling it to have PS4 pro power docked and 1080p handheld screen with multitouch technology and 3D lens built into it with a 3d camera like 3DS.

That would be so perfect. Man. I would love each and every single thing you said. Check, check and check! Built in 3d screen like the 3ds at 1080p would be so amazing.... I loved the 3ds and the 3d... I always had the 3d slider at maximum at all times, on all games. I absolutely loved the depth it gave. But, I cant imagine that there are mobile chips that would be at the level of power that the pro has..... are there? I honestly dont know.  Either way... it's fun to think about the future of the switch.



Radek said:
RolStoppable said:

I checked, and The Witcher 3 runs in 720p on Switch; 540p is the resolution in portable mode. You also forgot to mention the common framerate drops of the PS4 version to 20 fps.

You didn't address battery life either.

Poor reasearch on your part then because it runs UP TO 720p with 540p being the lowest number in docked mode and it's running at sub 720p a lot of the time.

Portable mode is 440p up to 540p.

On the other hand PS4 is always 1080p which is 4 times 540p and it runs on mix of medium and high details while Switch is on the lowest preset.

And I did adress battery life. Ampere 50 series GPU will provide similar battery life to regular Switch.

Does the gtx 1650 ampere version really run on 10 watts? I'm really asking, I dont know. If so, that's just insane to imagine.  It would be awesome if they could put something like that in a switch 2..... but, is it a big chip? I'd guess it's pretty pricey compared to most mobile chips... maybe not?



Here is something I've thought about since the switch was released, and thought of even more with the revised and lite models.

My thought is, Nintendo could update their OS to allow for native overclocking. Maybe not so much on the OG model, but certainly with the revision and the lite.

From my understanding of the mariko chip in them, they arent just more efficient, but capable of overall more performance than the old chip. Higher clocks, higher bandwidth, more everything.

I think they should allow multiple system settings, allowing the user to decide if they want all out performance at the cost of battery life, or run it for long battery life. I have a 20k mah battery I always use anyway, so I'm dying for this option.

I would love to use the performance mode in handheld. This would be an easy, nearly no cost solution to bring a form of a switch pro.... by simply unlocking the fucking chip. Come on Nintendo.... do it. Please. Stop handcuffing the system just because you have a battery life target....

I also believe the OG switch would handle it too, because it basically does when docked... and the fan has alot of headroom too. Mine goes full blast, for no reason, from time to time when it's cold on startup. That little thing really moves a ton of air.

What do you guys think? Sorry for kind of rambling on.



I would love a metal version of the switch with improved battery life. A metal casing would be so cool



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