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Weekly update. Worldwide cases are sort of staying the same with cases in the Northern hemisphere still going down, cases in the Southern hemisphere creeping up.

In total 3.78 million new cases were reported last week (slightly up from 3.69 million) to a total of 520,278,716
Also another 11,958 deaths were reported (down from 15,568) to a total of 6,286,535

Europe still heading down (1.74M -> 1.35M), USA still creeping back up (497K -> 640K)
Deaths continue to decline, closing in on getting under 10,000 deaths per week.

The continents

Europe continues heading down, the rest are all creeping back up, USA carrying NA.

Corners of the world

USA and South Africa are having the largest growth, Australia and Brazil following with slight growth.
Japan stabilized from a recent growth spurt, Korea flattened out on their downward trend.
China continues to report only symptomatic cases while continuing their zero covid strategy. Supermarkets and restaurants are said to re-open on Monday in Shanghai with limited capacity and "no contact" transactions
Canada reported 32K new cases (down from 41K) and 501 deaths (486 last week)

Europe in detail

General downward trend next to a general increasing lack of reporting. Only 8 of the 16 countries I'm tracking still report all week round.


At home yesterday was another very bad day for my wife. This disease is nasty. Vomiting, Diarrhea, nasty cough, extremely soar throat, lack of oxygen now and then, wild temperature swings. One moment she's shivering, next boiling. I was debating with her yesterday to call for help when she was complaining about lack of oxygen, but she's stubborn lol. Not that the healthcare system ever treated her right :/

She survived another night at least, slightly better this morning. Our youngest who had it first is pretty much fully recovered, just a stuffy nose left, loss of smell, and still a bit tired. He did a test again yesterday, came out negative. It's just an old rapid home test though that's not very reliable with Omicron.

The wife of my uncle did get a positive on the rapid test, she's got it bad as well now. Uncle is doing better, their son, my kids nephew, is better as well. The grandparents have managed to avoid it so far. I'm staying away from my wife as much as possible, we can't afford both to be down with kids. She's mostly sticking to the bedroom (really can't move much anyway) with the fan on and the windows open. I stay upwind from the fan and sleep on the couch at night, so far it has worked.

Hopefully tomorrow will be better again and not like a different friend of my wife who looked to get better then got worse again :/



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Still ongoing? Lul...



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SvennoJ said:

Weekly update. Worldwide cases are sort of staying the same with cases in the Northern hemisphere still going down, cases in the Southern hemisphere creeping up.

In total 3.78 million new cases were reported last week (slightly up from 3.69 million) to a total of 520,278,716
Also another 11,958 deaths were reported (down from 15,568) to a total of 6,286,535

Europe still heading down (1.74M -> 1.35M), USA still creeping back up (497K -> 640K)
Deaths continue to decline, closing in on getting under 10,000 deaths per week.

The continents

Europe continues heading down, the rest are all creeping back up, USA carrying NA.

Corners of the world

USA and South Africa are having the largest growth, Australia and Brazil following with slight growth.
Japan stabilized from a recent growth spurt, Korea flattened out on their downward trend.
China continues to report only symptomatic cases while continuing their zero covid strategy. Supermarkets and restaurants are said to re-open on Monday in Shanghai with limited capacity and "no contact" transactions
Canada reported 32K new cases (down from 41K) and 501 deaths (486 last week)

Europe in detail

General downward trend next to a general increasing lack of reporting. Only 8 of the 16 countries I'm tracking still report all week round.


At home yesterday was another very bad day for my wife. This disease is nasty. Vomiting, Diarrhea, nasty cough, extremely soar throat, lack of oxygen now and then, wild temperature swings. One moment she's shivering, next boiling. I was debating with her yesterday to call for help when she was complaining about lack of oxygen, but she's stubborn lol. Not that the healthcare system ever treated her right :/

She survived another night at least, slightly better this morning. Our youngest who had it first is pretty much fully recovered, just a stuffy nose left, loss of smell, and still a bit tired. He did a test again yesterday, came out negative. It's just an old rapid home test though that's not very reliable with Omicron.

The wife of my uncle did get a positive on the rapid test, she's got it bad as well now. Uncle is doing better, their son, my kids nephew, is better as well. The grandparents have managed to avoid it so far. I'm staying away from my wife as much as possible, we can't afford both to be down with kids. She's mostly sticking to the bedroom (really can't move much anyway) with the fan on and the windows open. I stay upwind from the fan and sleep on the couch at night, so far it has worked.

Hopefully tomorrow will be better again and not like a different friend of my wife who looked to get better then got worse again :/

I hope your wife starts to feels better soon. I can only imagine what you are going through. Wanting to help, but there really not being much you can do. 

My girlfriend and her parents got COVID a week ago. My girlfriend and her dad are pretty all better. Her mom had it worse, but is getting better. 



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trunkswd said:

I hope your wife starts to feels better soon. I can only imagine what you are going through. Wanting to help, but there really not being much you can do. 

My girlfriend and her parents got COVID a week ago. My girlfriend and her dad are pretty all better. Her mom had it worse, but is getting better. 

Thanks. Yep it's frustrating. The best way to help is not getting sick myself, which means staying away :( Basically provide sustenance, medicine and pillows, all you can do.

Her parents are in the same boat, want to help but they're vulnerable as well. My wife is still more worried they'll get it from her or our kids. Her parents come by anyway, drop off food for the kids (I can feed them too lol but they want to help and is appreciated) and watch them swim, the grandparents with masks on. We have a heat wave, just opened the pool up, so the kids are content at least. They don't mind 68F water!

I hope your girlfriend's mother gets over it soon. My brother in law (not my uncle, my kid's uncle) who was the first to get sick now has very painful ribs from extensive coughing. His wife is pretty bad atm, kid was doing better but not over it yet. I guess I got lucky not to catch it and my wife's parents better remain very careful.

My wife's friend with the one lung left (after beating cancer) got a medicine package (lives in the states) and is doing much better already. Here in Canada we just approved two treatment options (Paxlovid and Evusheld) but there's limited supply and she doesn't quite meet the conditions yet (>60 years and Immunocompromised)

Paxlovid, an antiviral drug for treatment of COVID-19 made by Pfizer, was approved in Canada on Jan. 17. Health Canada says as of March 31, it has shipped enough doses for 150,000 people to the provinces and territories, allocated on a per capita basis. 

But most of the provinces have only given a small percentage of their Paxlovid doses to patients so far, according to emailed responses to CBC News inquiries. In both Ontario and Alberta, for example, only about three per cent of their doses have actually reached patients. 

Despite provinces having so many doses on hand that haven't been used, people have told CBC News that the process of trying to get Paxlovid has been fraught with obstacles, ranging from availability of the drug to a lack of easily accessible places to get it.   

That's a problem, experts say, because to be effective, Paxlovid must be taken within five days of developing symptoms.


Too late already, if testing and tracing was still done we might have had a chance. My brother in law wasn't even tested at the hospital, they just send him home saying it's probably Covid, stay home for 5 days. It's the rapid test that sort of confirmed it later. First we though it was another cold one of the kids brought home from school (crazy weather here, heat wave now 30c, last weekend we had wet snow, up and down for a while, high of 14c tomorrow) but it kept getting worse.

The way this pandemic was/is handled doesn't give me any confidence in how a future pandemic will play out.



SvennoJ said:
trunkswd said:

I hope your wife starts to feels better soon. I can only imagine what you are going through. Wanting to help, but there really not being much you can do. 

My girlfriend and her parents got COVID a week ago. My girlfriend and her dad are pretty all better. Her mom had it worse, but is getting better. 

Thanks. Yep it's frustrating. The best way to help is not getting sick myself, which means staying away :( Basically provide sustenance, medicine and pillows, all you can do.

Her parents are in the same boat, want to help but they're vulnerable as well. My wife is still more worried they'll get it from her or our kids. Her parents come by anyway, drop off food for the kids (I can feed them too lol but they want to help and is appreciated) and watch them swim, the grandparents with masks on. We have a heat wave, just opened the pool up, so the kids are content at least. They don't mind 68F water!

I hope your girlfriend's mother gets over it soon. My brother in law (not my uncle, my kid's uncle) who was the first to get sick now has very painful ribs from extensive coughing. His wife is pretty bad atm, kid was doing better but not over it yet. I guess I got lucky not to catch it and my wife's parents better remain very careful.

My wife's friend with the one lung left (after beating cancer) got a medicine package (lives in the states) and is doing much better already. Here in Canada we just approved two treatment options (Paxlovid and Evusheld) but there's limited supply and she doesn't quite meet the conditions yet (>60 years and Immunocompromised)

Paxlovid, an antiviral drug for treatment of COVID-19 made by Pfizer, was approved in Canada on Jan. 17. Health Canada says as of March 31, it has shipped enough doses for 150,000 people to the provinces and territories, allocated on a per capita basis. 

But most of the provinces have only given a small percentage of their Paxlovid doses to patients so far, according to emailed responses to CBC News inquiries. In both Ontario and Alberta, for example, only about three per cent of their doses have actually reached patients. 

Despite provinces having so many doses on hand that haven't been used, people have told CBC News that the process of trying to get Paxlovid has been fraught with obstacles, ranging from availability of the drug to a lack of easily accessible places to get it.   

That's a problem, experts say, because to be effective, Paxlovid must be taken within five days of developing symptoms.


Too late already, if testing and tracing was still done we might have had a chance. My brother in law wasn't even tested at the hospital, they just send him home saying it's probably Covid, stay home for 5 days. It's the rapid test that sort of confirmed it later. First we though it was another cold one of the kids brought home from school (crazy weather here, heat wave now 30c, last weekend we had wet snow, up and down for a while, high of 14c tomorrow) but it kept getting worse.

The way this pandemic was/is handled doesn't give me any confidence in how a future pandemic will play out.

I am sure she appreciates the little bit you can do to help.

I can't do much to help my girlfriend and her parents as I am in the US and she is in the UK. Right now neither of us feel the safest flying with the pandemic still ongoing.



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SonicWariatPOL said:

Still ongoing? Lul...

Sorry, what mate?



I guess best thing to do now is to stay out of the hospital :/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/half-of-patients-hospitalized-with-covid-19-still-experiencing-at-least-one-symptom-two-years-later-study-1.5906249

That's not how it works of course, but long Covid is not pleasant

Two years after being hospitalized with COVID-19, survivors of the virus are still not back at the same level of health as those who never caught it, according to a new study. And half of those patients are still experiencing at least one virus-related symptom, suggesting that long COVID might end up affecting patients for even longer than anticipated. The research, published last week in the scientific journal The Lancet Respiratory Medicine, follows 1,192 patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19 in Jin Yin-tan hospital in Wuhan, China between early January 2020 and late May 2020.

....

Of the lingering symptoms that patients described experiencing, the most common were either fatigue or muscle weakness, with 31 per cent reporting that they experienced one or both. On top of that, although patients improved with time, they still reported having worse mental and physical health overall than the general population.

“COVID-19 survivors still had more prevalent symptoms and more problems in pain or discomfort, as well as anxiety or depression, at two years than did controls,” the study stated.

A little under a third of the participants also reported sleep difficulties two years after contracting COVID-19, compared to just 14 per cent of the general population represented by the control group. COVID-19 survivors reported pain or discomfort at more than four times the rate of the control group, and were more than twice as likely to report anxiety or depression. And those with long COVID needed to utilize healthcare more often even two years after having the virus. Around 26 per cent of those who were still experiencing at least one virus-related symptom reported a recent outpatient clinic visit compared to 11 per cent of participants without long COVID.

“To the best of our knowledge, this is the longest longitudinal cohort study of individuals who had survived hospitalisation with COVID-19,” the study stated. "Long COVID symptoms at two years were related to decreased quality of life, lower exercise capacity, abnormal mental health, and increased use of health care after discharge.”



Getting discharged from the hospital also doesn't mean you're in the clear yet either
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/about-11-per-cent-of-admitted-covid-patients-return-to-hospital-or-die-within-30-days-study-1.5904770

A new study offers a closer look at possible factors that may lead to some hospitalized COVID-19 patients being readmitted within a month of discharge.

At roughly nine per cent, researchers say the readmission rate is similar to that seen for other ailments, but socio-economic factors and sex seem to play a bigger role in predicting which patients are most likely to suffer a downturn when sent home. Research published Monday in the Canadian Medical Association Journal looked at 46,412 adults hospitalized for COVID-19 in Alberta and Ontario during the first part of the pandemic. About 18 per cent -- 8,496 patients -- died in hospital between January 2020 and October 2021, which was higher than the norm for other respiratory tract infections.

Among those sent home, about nine per cent returned to hospital within 30 days of leaving, while two per cent died.



Meanwhile North Korea has started to report numbers, 1.4 million cases in 3 days
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/north-korea/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/north-korea-reports-another-surge-in-fevers-amid-covid-crisis-1.5906374

North Korea on Tuesday reported another large jump in illnesses believed to be COVID-19 and encouraged good health habits, as a mass outbreak spreads through its unvaccinated population and military officers were deployed to distribute medicine.

State media said the anti-virus headquarters reported another 269,510 people were found with fevers and six had died. That raises North Korea's deaths to 56 after more than 1.48 million people became ill with fever since late April. North Korea lacks test kits to confirm coronavirus infections in large numbers, and the report didn't say how many of the fever cases were COVID-19.

The outbreak is almost certainly greater than the fever tally, considering the lack of tests and resources to monitor and treat the sick. North Korea's virus response comes down to isolating people with symptoms at shelters, and as of Tuesday, at least 663,910 people were in quarantine.




At home, not much improvement yet. My wife has been bed ridden for almost a week, feeling very weak. Our oldest caught it as well, he's home in bed too. I'm the only one left with working taste buds :/ (Youngest recovered and is doing fine, back to school).

So before falling ill as well I did a grocery run, double masked, hangs stinging from sanitizer lol. I'm still feeling fine but don't want to risk spreading it on. Anyway stocked up on lots of 'easy in easy out' food, soups, mac 'n cheese, noodle bowls, soft breads etc. And other essentials, fluids, vitamins, tissues, and so on.

Luckily the weather turned, it's a nice 12c going up to 15c with clear air after yesterday's rain. Good clean fresh air helps a lot for breathing. Windows open, some relief for my wife at least.

Hopefully I can stave off Covid (or skip entirely would be better) long enough for my wife to get well enough to feed the kids when I go down :/ This thing seems unstoppable.



BA.4/BA.5 seem to have peaked in SA, same with BA.2.12.1 in upper state NY. Phew.

Also tangentially related: reject covid, return to monke?

Monkeypox outbreaks were detected in Europe and perhaps Canada, with one case in the US. All among MSM, gay, and bisexual men. Strongly hints at a previously unreported mode of transmission (sexual contact). Or, more sinisterly, a virus slowly evolving to fill the niche smallpox left behind.

The good news are: this is the less deadly monkeypox strain (~ 1% CFR) and we have both an approved antiviral and an approved vaccine against it, both with significant numbers of doses stockpiled (because of smallpox, but the vaccinia virus used in the vaccine is actually closer to the monkeypox virus and grants long-lasting sterilizing immunity).



 

 

 

 

 

Paxlovid only worked temporarily for my wife's friend. She was feeling good for a couple days but is now back in bed feeling terrible :/

It seems she's far from the only one
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/scientists-investigate-perplexing-viral-rebound-covid-19-cases/story?id=84475465

https://globalnews.ca/news/8826587/pfizer-paxlovid-covid-symptoms-explainer/

Dozens of individuals have reported rebounding COVID symptoms on social media or to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration after taking Paxlovid, but Pfizer suggests the experience is rare.

Pfizer has said that from more than 300,000 patients it is monitoring who received the five-day treatment, around 1-in-3,000, or about 0.03 per cent, reported a relapse after taking the pills.

She's either extremely unlucky (lost a lung due to cancer being detected/treated too late, got Covid despite being extra careful, now part of the 0.03%) or they need to test better... Or could a mutation be responsible.


My wife is starting to come to the conclusion she might need to go to the hospital. Her hands are numb, tingling, arms not great either. Low oxygen probably. She can hardly stand up. However hospitals just raise her blood pressure through the roof and you can't even open a window there. Plus too many bad memories, when you know the doctors you never want to see again on a first name basis...

Not sure if it's the same everywhere but you can't get oxygen here without a specialist referral. Controlled substance lol. (With valid reasons, it can also make things worse with certain lung conditions)

She's still coping atm however the hot weather is coming back, Friday 29c. And since the rain everything has been growing, which prompts people to burn their garden waste and have campfires at night, making it impossible to breathe for her. So it would be air conditioning either way :/


Meanwhile the WHO recommends China to just give up
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/china-s-covid-plan-is-unsustainable-due-to-omicron-who-1.5907084

"We understand why the initial response of China was to try and suppress infections to the maximum level (but) that strategy is not sustainable and other elements of the strategic response needs to be amplified," he said. Ryan added that vaccination efforts should continue and emphasized that "a suppression-only strategy is not a sustainable way to exit the pandemic for any country."

I guess just letting the vulnerable die or deal with year long recoveries is the way to exit the pandemic... F this world.

Ryan said any unchecked transmission in countries like North Korea and Eritrea could spur the emergence of new variants, but that the WHO was powerless to act unless countries accepted its help.

Fuck you Ryan, where the fuck did Omicron and all the others come from. Now you're fucking concerned, fuck off.

He said the WHO had offered to send both North Korea and Eritrea vaccines, medicines, tests and technical support, but that neither country's leader has yet responded.

How about Africa fucktard, did they reject your 'help' as well. Still only 17% fully vaccinated. Not that fully vaccinated plus booster did my wife any good.



^ There are some suggestions nirmatrelvir might have a generic immune-suppressing effect since it drops the viral load so dramatically. Hence the possibility of a rebound in cases of a dysfunctional immune response. A longer course of treatment might be the answer but that raises the possibility of viral resistance in the mid to long term.