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curl-6 said:

25 vaccine candidates are now in human trials; 13 in Phase I, 9 in Phase II, and 3 in Phase III.

Immersiveunreality said:

Spoiler tag for the drama.

Spoiler!
The appointment i had was actually for lower nerve backpains and to tell doctor about my very selfdestructive mental state(autism) that i never really took meds for or decent help but i'm getting at the edge of pressure that i can handle and lately taking in too much alcohol to try and calm myself.The quarantaine and isolation on top of that did me no good  and i'm nearly suicidal.But i happened to be a bit nauseous and got some strange rash on my stomach so i got an covid test. :p

So sorry to hear you're hurting man, as an autistic I know it's not always an easy thing to live with.

I really hope things get better for you.

Regarding the mental aspect, the right meds made a world of difference for me.

Thank you,i shall reply with a pm cause i have such a bad habit derailing threads.



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jason1637 said:

It's over 50K atm for today on Worldometer, 45 minutes to go. Fewer deaths somehow 663.



Europe update, still in overall slow decline (95% compared to last week)

3-day average reported cases

Sweden lagging behind due to their way of reporting, Netherlands missed an update today.
Switzerland and Austria are concerning, heading back up for the past two weeks.
The UK is doing well, finally under the 1000 cases per day, Russia slow and steady decline.
I added Poland and Ukraine to the list, Poland in Cyberpunk yellow doing the same as Sweden it seems, coasting at the same level.
Ukraine seemed to have peaked but had a resurgence having them in second place for a couple days.

7 day average reported deaths

Norway, Austria, Denmark, Switzerland and Ireland are at or below one or 2 deaths a day, The Netherlands is almost there.
Sweden changed its reporting method for deaths which makes them lag even further behind in this graph.
Russia passed the UK but seems to have peaked as well.

Week over week for the big ones left

Germany had that big outbreak in the meat industry.
Sweden settled down a bit again.
Russia is slow to go down but very stable in their reporting.

Overall Europe is mostly below the 100% week over week, just slow going while those that re-opened first are seeing slight upticks. Opening up the borders is likely only going to accelerate the move towards a second wave.


Canada only had 2 provinces reporting today (of 13) since its a national holiday. Thus going awesome!
The US... https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/16/816707182/map-tracking-the-spread-of-the-coronavirus-in-the-u-s



SvennoJ said:

Netherlands missed an update today.

Netherlands stopped reporting daily because the numbers are so tiny and they feel like it isn’t worth the hassle anymore. There’ll be a weekly report every Tuesday from now on.



S.Peelman said:
SvennoJ said:

Netherlands missed an update today.

Netherlands stopped reporting daily because the numbers are so tiny and they feel like it isn’t worth the hassle anymore. There’ll be a weekly report every Tuesday from now on.

Wow, weekly.... There were still 15 countries with lower daily numbers than the Netherlands in Europe who still do daily updates. Plus now is the time to be vigilant about tracking the spread, certainly when you jump straight to phase 3 re-openings.

Oh well, meanwhile in Prague
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/czech-public-dinner-lockdown-scli-intl/index.html

People in the Czech capital, Prague, built a 1,600-foot table and held a massive public dinner party on Tuesday, to celebrate the end of the country's coronavirus lockdown.







"We want to celebrate the end of the coronavirus crisis with people meeting up and showing they're no longer afraid to meet others. That they aren't afraid to accept a bite of a sandwich from someone," Ondrej Kobza, the Prague cafe owner who organized the event, told the Agence France-Presse news agency.

Czech was tracking above the Netherlands after a recent new outbreak.



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SvennoJ said:
S.Peelman said:

Netherlands stopped reporting daily because the numbers are so tiny and they feel like it isn’t worth the hassle anymore. There’ll be a weekly report every Tuesday from now on.

Wow, weekly.... There were still 15 countries with lower daily numbers than the Netherlands in Europe who still do daily updates. Plus now is the time to be vigilant about tracking the spread, certainly when you jump straight to phase 3 re-openings.

Oh well, meanwhile in Prague
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/czech-public-dinner-lockdown-scli-intl/index.html

People in the Czech capital, Prague, built a 1,600-foot table and held a massive public dinner party on Tuesday, to celebrate the end of the country's coronavirus lockdown.







"We want to celebrate the end of the coronavirus crisis with people meeting up and showing they're no longer afraid to meet others. That they aren't afraid to accept a bite of a sandwich from someone," Ondrej Kobza, the Prague cafe owner who organized the event, told the Agence France-Presse news agency.

Czech was tracking above the Netherlands after a recent new outbreak.

It's not like they're not tracking anything, they'll just won't report to the public daily anymore. The government will obviously know if on any given Thursday shit hits the fan, they don't have to wait until the next Tuesday. We'll live.



S.Peelman said:

It's not like they're not tracking anything, they'll just won't report daily anymore. The government will obviously know if on any given Thursday shit hits the fan, they don't have to wait until the next Tuesday. We'll live.

True, it won't turn around / accelerate that quickly anyway, yet you think China wouldn't have gotten any flack about switching to weekly updates not long after getting below 100 cases per day. Just kinda odd when transparency is the only way to keep people's confidence in the government up nowadays. Cancelling the daily press conference is expected yet how hard is it to just stick the numbers in a publicly accessible database.

Quebec wanted to switch to 3 day reporting here after getting where the Netherlands is/was and got immediately called out for it and is now back to daily reporting. In fact they were the only ones to report on the national holiday together with Nova Scotia (reported 1 case)

Anyway I never thought highly of the Dutch government's transparency. I lived in Amsterdam during the Bijlmer disaster (El Al plane crash) and whether or not anything 'fishy' was going on, the government left way too much room for conspiracy theories and paranoia to surface.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/20-years-on-el-al-crash-in-amsterdam-still-spawns-conspiracy-theories/
As well as the fuck up with Dutchbat in Sarajevo, the Sabrenica massacre.
(I left a few months after the assasination of Pim Fortyun)

Just a little background why I'm a bit wary of the Dutch government :)



UV-C light production ramping up
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-company-claims-their-ultraviolet-light-system-can-kill-covid-19-1.5006546

A company from Kitchener-Waterloo says that businesses should consider using ultraviolet light to stop the spread of COVID-19, instead of conventional cleaning products. “Wherever the UV-C light touches, wherever the light reflects, you get a 99.9 per cent kill rate,” President Gib Wood told CTV News Toronto.

The company says it has installed five systems in businesses in the Kitchener-Waterloo area including a restaurant and a truck stop bathroom. Gib claims the wireless automated disinfection systems can safely eradicate COVID-19 using UV-C lighting. “We think of this as the next generation of sanitation" Gib said.

The fact that the coronavirus can live on surfaces for hours to days after the droplets fall on a surface, a plastic or metal surface, you really need effective cleaning, that completely bathes the room,” Dr. Bruce Mazer said. While it could take a person an hour to clean a room, the robot can do it in about 10 minutes, but has a cost of $120,000. Alternatively, Spenergy says its lightning systems are stationary and can keep rooms safe for several dollars a day. “For three dollars a day you can sanitize a room is what it works out to" said Gib. UV lighting could also be used sanitize subways, classrooms and long term care homes and could be more cost effective to kill viruses than a large cleaning staff.

And should be installed on central air systems imo.

Not for personal use!

The light is so powerful that no one is allowed inside the room when the device on. UV lights should only be used on surfaces and not your skin. You may see products being sold online that claim to kill the virus, but some of them have turned out to be fakes containing blue LED lights. It should be noted that the World Health Organization (WHO) advises against the use of ultraviolet light to disinfect hands or other areas of your skin. The WHO says that UV radiation can cause skin irritation and damage your eyes.



S.Peelman said:
SvennoJ said:

Netherlands missed an update today.

Netherlands stopped reporting daily because the numbers are so tiny and they feel like it isn’t worth the hassle anymore. There’ll be a weekly report every Tuesday from now on.

We had 26 new cases today (last 24 hours), be we reported it.
How much of a hassel is it really to count daily numbers? and report them daily?

We have like 400-500 active cases, and 29 people hospitalised.
9 people in the ICU.

Doesnt mean coronavirus is gone, and it still needs to be kept under controll and kept a good eye on.



SvennoJ said:
S.Peelman said:

It's not like they're not tracking anything, they'll just won't report daily anymore. The government will obviously know if on any given Thursday shit hits the fan, they don't have to wait until the next Tuesday. We'll live.

True, it won't turn around / accelerate that quickly anyway, yet you think China wouldn't have gotten any flack about switching to weekly updates not long after getting below 100 cases per day. Just kinda odd when transparency is the only way to keep people's confidence in the government up nowadays. Cancelling the daily press conference is expected yet how hard is it to just stick the numbers in a publicly accessible database.

Quebec wanted to switch to 3 day reporting here after getting where the Netherlands is/was and got immediately called out for it and is now back to daily reporting. In fact they were the only ones to report on the national holiday together with Nova Scotia (reported 1 case)

Anyway I never thought highly of the Dutch government's transparency. I lived in Amsterdam during the Bijlmer disaster (El Al plane crash) and whether or not anything 'fishy' was going on, the government left way too much room for conspiracy theories and paranoia to surface.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/20-years-on-el-al-crash-in-amsterdam-still-spawns-conspiracy-theories/
As well as the fuck up with Dutchbat in Sarajevo, the Sabrenica massacre.
(I left a few months after the assasination of Pim Fortyun)

Just a little background why I'm a bit wary of the Dutch government :)

The thing is this virus isn't front page news here anymore so nobody really cares anyway whether or not they report stuff and everyone's been going about their normal business for the most part for a while now. Government approval is actually at a decently high rate these days, people trust them enough, and current prime minister Mark Rutte will win the general election of early next year with ease.

EDIT:

Oh wait I forgot, they do still have this website which they set up a couple weeks ago which shows some current stats.

https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl

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