KiigelHeart said:
Well to be fair, when your wife/girlfriend drags you to IKEA it's all doom and gloom. Until you reach that meatballs & smashed potatoes restaurant at least :P |
I'd just wait there and eat and let her do her thing. 
| vivster said: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html So many uncounted deaths in the US. Looks like they have at least 50% more deaths than official numbers. |
They noticed the same for Europe earlier
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html (last updated April 27th)
This one is up to date until April 25th for NY, more missed. Gap was 1700 up to April 11th (your link), 4,200 up to April 25th.
It's different per country. The Netherlands is counting way less deaths than Belgium. Belgium missing about 21%, The Netherlands missing 48%.
If you take that to the current totals, Belgium goes from 7,331 to 9,279 and The Netherlands from 4,566 to 8,780. The difference reduced from 1.6 : 1 to 1.06 : 1.
| Spain Mar. 9 - Apr. 12 |
67% | 26,200 | − | 17,192 | = | 9,100 |
| France Mar. 9 - Apr. 12 |
39% | 21,600 | − | 14,393 | = | 7,200 |
| Ecuador Mar. 1 - Apr. 15 |
83% | 7,600 | − | 503 | = | 7,100 |
| England and Wales Mar. 7 - Apr. 10 |
33% | 16,700 | − | 10,335 | = | 6,400 |
| New York City Mar. 11 - Apr. 25 |
309% | 20,900 | − | 16,673 | = | 4,200 |
| Netherlands Mar. 9 - Apr. 12 |
41% | 6,200 | − | 3,197 | = | 3,000 |
| Jakarta March |
57% | 1,600 | − | 84 | = | 1,500 |
| Istanbul Mar. 9 - Apr. 12 |
29% | 2,100 | − | 1,006 | = | 1,100 |
| Belgium Mar. 9 - Apr. 5 |
34% | 3,000 | − | 2,373 | = | 600 |
| Switzerland Mar. 9 - Apr. 12 |
25% | 1,600 | − | 1,015 | = | 600 |
| Sweden Mar. 9 - Apr. 19 |
18% | 1,900 | − | 1,540 | = | 400 |
| Cyran said: On some more hopeful news there a vaccine our of Oxford that showing some real potential. https://www.businessinsider.com/monkeys-given-new-oxford-vaccine-coronavirus-free-strong-exposure-encouraging-2020-4 Obviously no guaranteed it will be effective on humans but the species of Monkeys used is the closest things they could of tested on too humans. It was enough to let them start human trials. In theory if it goes well could be approved as early as September. Hopefully it works out and at least we can start getting essential personnel vaccination this fall as we start scaling up for wider vaccination. |
This human trial started on March 16th
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins
The open-label trial will enroll 45 healthy adult volunteers ages 18 to 55 years over approximately 6 weeks. The first participant received the investigational vaccine today.
The study is evaluating different doses of the experimental vaccine for safety and its ability to induce an immune response in participants. This is the first of multiple steps in the clinical trial process for evaluating the potential benefit of the vaccine.
The vaccine is called mRNA-1273 and was developed by NIAID scientists and their collaborators at the biotechnology company Moderna, Inc., based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) supported the manufacturing of the vaccine candidate for the Phase 1 clinical trial.
The investigational vaccine was developed using a genetic platform called mRNA (messenger RNA). The investigational vaccine directs the body’s cells to express a virus protein that it is hoped will elicit a robust immune response. The mRNA-1273 vaccine has shown promise in animal models, and this is the first trial to examine it in humans.
The UK trial is starting now
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/health/coronavirus-vaccine-trial-uk-gbr-intl/index.html
Scientists in the UK will begin trials of a potential Covid-19 vaccine on humans Thursday, as the government warns it could have to rely on social distancing measures until next year assuming no vaccine or treatment is found before then.
There are probably a lot more vaccine candidates in development. For example Canada is running 20 different clinical trials atm to test different treatments. (Most which will likely prove useless like hydroxychloroquine.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-health-products/covid19-clinical-trials/list-authorized-trials.html#wb-auto-5
At this time, there is no vaccine authorized to protect against COVID-19. Nevertheless, clinical trials for COVID-19 vaccines are ongoing around the world, and Health Canada is working with vaccine developers and manufacturers to help expedite the development and availability of vaccines to prevent COVID-19. Moreover, Health Canada is also collaborating with international regulators and organizations, including the International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities, on issues related to the development of COVID-19 vaccines.
Health Canada is working to fast-track clinical trial applications for COVID-19 vaccines. Companies and researchers with vaccines in development that may be effective in preventing COVID-19 are encouraged to contact Health Canada to facilitate the submission of clinical trial applications. While the Department is expediting discussions on clinical trials with companies who have products in development, it will only do so with those companies and researchers who have sufficient pre-clinical data to be planning clinical trials.
Good to know this problem is being worked hard at all over the world. Yet realistically, it will be well into next year before any vaccine can be widely deployed. We can't let our guard down for the next flu season, but maybe, just maybe, the most vulnerable could have something on top of the flu shot to get them through the winter.
| Phoenix20 said: Drink Corona to Beat Corona! |
You Knows whats good with Corona? ... Lymes disease
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1255352014042738688?s=20
He truly loves to fool his followers. Well, maybe he just meant USA is testing so much more than Senegal and Tuvalu and those who don't support him just believe that he loves to talk shit for votes.
Who cares about tests per capita, right?
| crissindahouse said: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1255352014042738688?s=20 He truly loves to fool his followers. Well, maybe he just meant USA is testing so much more than Senegal and Tuvalu and those who don't support him just believe that he loves to talk shit for votes. Who cares about tests per capita, right? |
I'm sure if Andorra had done 6 million tests they would be on top right now :)
The world info site has tests per capita, USA sits in 43rd place, behind Hong Kong, Belgium, Canada, Australia, Russia...
Spain sits at over 30K tests per 1M population, USA 18K tests per 1 million population.
(Spain positive rate is the same as USA positive rate: 17% of tests positive)
USA always comparing themselves to the worst :)
I have to say sorry to Mr. Trump.
I thought a little bit more about it and now I'm sure that he didn't try to fool anyone. After his question if a flu vaccine doesn't work and his idea to inject some disinfectant to get rid of Covid I truly believe that he just doesn't understand how more tests doesn't automatically mean a better job If you have a way bigger population.
He's just not very smart.
| Barozi said: https://theintercept.com/2020/04/27/in-just-months-the-coronavirus-kills-more-americans-than-20-years-of-war-in-vietnam/ "It took 20 years, from 1955 to 1975, for the United States to lose 58,220 men and women to the nation’s most divisive conflict since the Civil War. In less than four months, just as many Americans have died from the Covid-19 pandemic — the toll, on Tuesday, hit 58,947, surpassing the total number killed in Southeast Asia." |
The majority of Vietnam casualties occurred from 1965-1971, but I guess "20 years" is a much sexier number to cherry pick when nonsensically comparing armed conflict to a pandemic.
UK added ~4000 deaths from places outside hospitals and will continue to count them in the future.
Mandalore76 said:
The majority of Vietnam casualties occurred from 1965-1971, but I guess "20 years" is a much sexier number to cherry pick when nonsensically comparing armed conflict to a pandemic. |
Ever heard of the Korean war?
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