Here in Luxembourg, over a third of the workforce crossed borders each day. When they got closed, the state requisitioned some hotels (which were empty anyway due to the virus) and offered those who work in essential businesses to stay in the country without going through the hassle of the checkups at the border each day.

Don't you have the yearly flu vaccination calls all over tv in Germany? Get the flu shot posted at every pharmacy through out the country? The flu gets a major campaign here every year.

Smoking hasn't been cool since the 90s, forbidden nearly everywhere with grim warnings on the cartons. When I grew up public transport, schools, hospitals, all smelled like ash trays. That's all in the past.  And now there are a lot of warnings and plans to limit vaping as well. Eat healthy campaigns are always there as well, yet in the end it's up to the people themselves.

Plenty of people give a shit. And plenty of people still don't give a shit about covid19. The difference is, governments are shutting down the country for something that can cripple the entire nation. No treatment, no vaccine, very contagious, too many unknowns.

There will be many questions asked and fingers pointed after this, not much patting on the back. And people will continue to care about all the other preventable deaths. And other people will continue to not care about stuff that they're sure won't happen to them.

I have no idea of the economy in Ireland but for progression of Covid19, Ireland is about at the level of Austria, avg 25 deaths a day, so doing very well for Europe. Of course it all changes if it turns out many deaths haven't been identified.

Austria is at 13.6K detected cases, Ireland only at 8K despite a sudden spike of 1500 cases yesterday while before Ireland was reporting around 360 cases a day. Austria is down to reporting down to 300 cases a day now. Ireland has a lot of testing to catch up on.

It does look like Ireland will peak a bit higher than Austria, looks like Ireland is up to a week behind Austria's progression so indeed wise to extend the lock down.

As for the economy, same shitty boat everyone else is in :/

Two edged blade there,on one hand it relieves those workers but on the other it takes away needed staff from another country that could potentially lower the death count.

Luxembourg seems a rarely nice place that has a lot of reserves.

Well, they were employed in Luxembourg anyway, and they were free to cross the border each day or even to stay at home if they so preferred. Only a couple hundred chose the deal, mostly because they are also away from their loved ones if they live in the hotel for the time being. Most of them were working in retail or banking (which is considered essential to keep the people afloat), only 14 of them were medical practitioners.

Greenland had 11 infected.... they have all recovered now.
They tested everyone they came into contact with, and non have the infection.

Greenland is now (currently) free from Covid-19!

13:20: "is there any data out there comparing countries that took the herd immunity mentality vs our social distancing approach? If so, is there a big difference in outcomes? for one thing you can look a place like Japan which didn't do the same mitigation that we did and they only had 85 deaths in the country of Japan"

Fauci's answer: "You gotta be careful when you compare countries, different sizes, different borders, there is a really good example that I think answers your question, the UK had deci?ded that you were gonna let's get herd immunity, they did that for a few weeks and then opps, mistake, we better hunkering down and do physical separation"

But that's hardly a good example? Boris was presented with the same faulty models that you yourself believe are faulty? And as a politician, even if he was a cold blooded murderer, there was no way he would look at those number and continue to pretend that he had a choice? and with shit bipartisan journalism being the norm and politics being a circus everywhere in the world, there was no chance he'd go with the herd immunity option even if it was the less deadlier one, because it is political suicide and he'd never get a fair chance at explaining his decision? The applies for most politicians in the west.

If you want a good example, you'll have to actually look at countries that actually went ahead and actually tried that approach. What a dumb ass answer that was. 

Japan to Fund Firms to Shift Production Out of China (and bring it back to Japan)

Japan has earmarked $2.2 billion of its record economic stimulus package to help its manufacturers shift production out of China as the coronavirus disrupts supply chains between the major trading partners. The extra budget, compiled to try to offset the devastating effects of the pandemic, includes 220 billion yen ($2 billion) for companies shifting production back to Japan and 23.5 billion yen for those seeking to move production to other countries, according to details of the plan posted online.

That has renewed talk of Japanese firms reducing their reliance on China as a manufacturing base. The government’s panel on future investment last month discussed the need for manufacturing of high-added value products to be shifted back to Japan, and for production of other goods to be diversified across Southeast Asia.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/japan-to-fund-firms-to-shift-production-out-of-china

We need more of this, now is the time.

Herd immunity means getting your population infected so they become immune to the virus. That is not what Japan is doing, they tracking every individual that get the virus and those that was in contact with infected people to isolate them. I'm pretty sure they have very strong border security, where entrance are difficult or even maybe shut down.

US can't do what Japan is doing as the virus is already wide spread.

So the tax payers have to fund domestic production of goods? Why not simply raise import taxes, at least to fund that stimulus package. Sounds like a bailout to me.