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NextGen_Gamer on 16 January 2020

I don't like to doubt Jason, but this is still one of those rumors that seems so strange to me. I can think of one good reason for it to happen, but definitely more for why it doesn't make much sense...

Reasons It Could Happen:

1) Both Horizon: Zero Dawn and Death Stranding run on the Decima Engine. Kojima Productions made a lot of enhancements to the Decima Engine on their work with Death Stranding, and shared all of those improvements back to the engine's creator Guerrilla Games. Those improvements would include building-in native support for a PC port - so from a technology standpoint, Kojima Productions has already done most of the legwork for Guerrilla Games to port Horizon over to the PC platform.

Reasons Why It Won't Happen:

1) All that being said, Kojima Productions is a WHOLLY INDEPENDENT studio - they are NOT owned by Sony. Sony is simply the exclusive console publisher for Death Stranding. The Death Stranding IP and game are wholly owned by Kojima Productions, and of course they can do with it what they want. And it was always in the plan, from day one, for Death Stranding to come to the PC as well as the PS4.

2) Guerilla Games IS owned by Sony. They are what you call a first-party studio. They cannot simply port their game to PC, unless Sony asked them to...

3) ... which brings me to why would Sony ask them to. Even with Kojima dong the heavy lifting on getting it running on the DX12 API, different Intel/AMD processors, etc., it would still take some engineering work for Guerrilla and why would they put that time/effort into getting a 3-year old PS4 game out on the PC now? Unless as others suggested, and Sony plans to do this for all games going forward, I just don't understand the business sense in it.



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jason1637 on 16 January 2020
Cerebralbore101 said:
Well that sinks it for me. I won't be buying a PS5 since all the exclusives are likely coming to PC, even if it is 2-3 years later. Other PS titles have come to PC, but not titles that Sony fully owned. This is a huge change for the company, and signals that they are going to go the MS route of not caring how many consoles they sell, and just pushing services.

This is pretty sad, because consoles had at least one or two more good generations in them. With both Sony and MS pretty much waving the white flag to streaming, and PC, it's a foregone conclusion that PS5 + XB1SX won't sell a combined 115 million units.

Modern Non-Nintendo game consoles are basically little more than machines for casuals now. There's absolutely no reason to buy a Sony or MS next gen console. PC is just better.

I dont see this having a huge impact on sales. Consoles target a more casual audience than PC gamers. I expect next gen consoles to sell the same as the PS4/XBO combined even with PS and MS games on PC.



zealen on 16 January 2020

Well if Jason Schreier says so, you better believe it



HollyGamer on 16 January 2020

We are living on weird dimension and weird timeline. I bet  this is just the continuation to PSnow . PSnow will be like gamepass where old games can be playable on cloud and download to PC or Playstation platform. I bet this is counter strategy to Microsoft game pass plan 

That's why this guy knew what is coming. He must be super legit and close to Sony head management. Or just plain smart and genius.   

I wonder what is the minimum spec for the games ???

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HollyGamer on 16 January 2020
Hiku said:

I like it.
But curious if they'll continue doing it this way. As in waiting several years before porting it to another system, rather than developing it for additional systems from the start. And then maybe releasing it a year later.

I bet this will be the norm if it's success . But for now probably games that coming to PC will just PSNow games and old games . 



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Pemalite on 16 January 2020

Yasss. #PCGamingMasterRace



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COKTOE on 16 January 2020
Hiku said:

I like it.
But curious if they'll continue doing it this way. As in waiting several years before porting it to another system, rather than developing it for additional systems from the start. And then maybe releasing it a year later.

They're somewhat trepidatious. And as the console market leader, they should be. It's a smart play for now. How they position themselves in the future will be determined by their relative success in the console market going forward.

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HollyGamer on 16 January 2020
Hiku said:
HollyGamer said:

I bet this will be the norm if it's success . But for now probably games that coming to PC will just PSNow games and old games . 

Well it seems it may be more expensive to do it this way. But on the other hand it makes it easier for them to focus on just one version during initial development, which can be cheaper and faster if you look at it that way.

Yeah for sure porting games will be expensive especially when another studios do the work.  But i guess for now they are just testing the water. And PS4 already has compatibility with DirectX. But i hope  they keep focusing on one platform and then ported to PC. So the games will look and play better for both Console and PC unlike games that developed for multi platform mostly the quality are bad.  



Random_Matt on 16 January 2020

Consoles really are now pointless. Rigs can do everything, no point in have multiples.



HollyGamer on 16 January 2020
Radek said:
HollyGamer said:

Yeah for sure porting games will be expensive especially when another studios do the work.  But i guess for now they are just testing the water. And PS4 already has compatibility with DirectX. But i hope  they keep focusing on one platform and then ported to PC. So the games will look and play better for both Console and PC unlike games that developed for multi platform mostly the quality are bad.  

PS4 doesn't need DirectX. Detroit Become Human on PC runs on Vulkan, so does RDR2.

Yeah  i mean PS4 are build based X86. It's compatible either with Vulcan, Linux, or directX or every X86 program and engine.