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LudicrousSpeed said:
PotentHerbs said:

I doubt that. 

Again, Zelda >>>>>>>> Horizon, and no fuss was made there. It’s ok, you can be wrong. 

I can pull up a few Sony threads to prove otherwise. Xbox fans will definitely downplay a Horizon 2 cross gen launch. Its comical to think otherwise. 



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thismeintiel said:
Not very smart in my opinion. It most likely means that they'll be starting with Xbox One S and working their way up. It already was reported that some devs didn't like developing for Lockhart and Series X. I can't imagine 1st party studios being too happy with also having to develop for an outdated piece of tech instead of moving on to next-gen fully like most of Sony's 1st party studios are.

Isnt TLOU 2, and Ghost of whatever being developed for PS4 base hardware? You know you won't see another one of those companies for years right? Not when big IPs can take 3 to 5 years to make. I really dont see the issue here.

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PotentHerbs said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Again, Zelda >>>>>>>> Horizon, and no fuss was made there. It’s ok, you can be wrong. 

I can pull up a few Sony threads to prove otherwise. Xbox fans will definitely downplay a Horizon 2 cross gen launch. Its comical to think otherwise. 

Ok, now I'm intrigued. 

Go for it. 



ironmanDX said:
PotentHerbs said:

I can pull up a few Sony threads to prove otherwise. Xbox fans will definitely downplay a Horizon 2 cross gen launch. Its comical to think otherwise. 

Ok, now I'm intrigued. 

Go for it. 

Here you go: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=239930&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=240488&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241597&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241054&page=1

There are a couple more threads I remember from a few years back that I can dig up as well. 

Edit: 

Had to throw in this one as well because its wild as hell: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=225177&page=1

From the cinematic experience to third person action/adventure narrative.

Last edited by PotentHerbs - on 12 January 2020

Azzanation said:
thismeintiel said:
Not very smart in my opinion. It most likely means that they'll be starting with Xbox One S and working their way up. It already was reported that some devs didn't like developing for Lockhart and Series X. I can't imagine 1st party studios being too happy with also having to develop for an outdated piece of tech instead of moving on to next-gen fully like most of Sony's 1st party studios are.

Isnt TLOU 2, and Ghost of whatever being developed for PS4 base hardware? You know you won't see another one of those companies for years right? Not when big IPs can take 3 to 5 years to make. I really dont see the issue here.

Not sure what that has to do with devs being held back by being forced to make sure the game runs on outdated Jaguar cores.  TLOU2 and GOT were already being made with PS4 in mind.  It's not like they had a next gen game on PS5 and Sony forced them to make sure it could run on PS4, which is what MS is making them do. 



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thismeintiel said:
Azzanation said:

Isnt TLOU 2, and Ghost of whatever being developed for PS4 base hardware? You know you won't see another one of those companies for years right? Not when big IPs can take 3 to 5 years to make. I really dont see the issue here.

Not sure what that has to do with devs being held back by being forced to make sure the game runs on outdated Jaguar cores.  TLOU2 and GOT were already being made with PS4 in mind.  It's not like they had a next gen game on PS5 and Sony forced them to make sure it could run on PS4, which is what MS is making them do. 

1 to 2 years is 1 game from a developer. Its basically saying make one more game that also runs on old hardware. Next Halo (7) etc will utilise full hardware specs.

Also lets not forget to run next gen games on old hardware really doesn't take much. Reduce the 4k to 1080p, reduce 60 fps to 30 fps and take out Ray Tracing and you already saved alot of hardware power for older machines. (Obviously there is alot more to it but lets digress)

Gamers need to stop acting like the next group of hybrid games are not going to look good. You can bet your ass Halo Infinite is going to look amazing regardless if its cross gen.

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PotentHerbs said:
ironmanDX said:

Ok, now I'm intrigued. 

Go for it. 

Here you go: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=239930&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=240488&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241597&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241054&page=1

There are a couple more threads I remember from a few years back that I can dig up as well. 

Edit: 

Had to throw in this one as well because its wild as hell: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=225177&page=1

From the cinematic experience to third person action/adventure narrative.

That first thread simply isn't even remotely what you are accusing others of. The Op even states that they do/don't agree with the article linked from an outside source.

It creates discussion. On a forum, that really shouldn't be an issue... 

The second isn't related either... It's about money hating 3rd party titles and dlc... Moving on....

Third is about a rumoured spec leak.. What do these have to do with downplaying horizon 2? The thread seemed to be more about pricing between the consoles and again, speculation about the specs.. What do you want people to do? Not talk about the information presented in the thread from an article? 

There is downplaying about cross play finally being a thing. There probably should have been more of a positive reaction there. Mods handled the situation. Not worth bookmarking imo but I'll give it to you nonetheless. 

I don't see any problem with the last thread. It's based on a person's specific tastes in gaming and they're simply sharing that opinion with others. Some known Sony fans are even agreeing in the thread... Specificallyaabout the change in gameplay from uncharted 2 to 4 and GoW's recent evolution.

It's actually well behaved in the thread too. I only did read through the first 50 posts though.

Do you just not want discussion? Is that really what you're saying? Perhaps a shared user base forum isn't for you. 



ironmanDX said:
PotentHerbs said:

Here you go: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=239930&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=240488&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241597&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241054&page=1

There are a couple more threads I remember from a few years back that I can dig up as well. 

Edit: 

Had to throw in this one as well because its wild as hell: 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=225177&page=1

From the cinematic experience to third person action/adventure narrative.

That first thread simply isn't even remotely what you are accusing others of. The Op even states that they do/don't agree with the article linked from an outside source.

It creates discussion. On a forum, that really shouldn't be an issue... 

The second isn't related either... It's about money hating 3rd party titles and dlc... Moving on....

Third is about a rumoured spec leak.. What do these have to do with downplaying horizon 2? The thread seemed to be more about pricing between the consoles and again, speculation about the specs.. What do you want people to do? Not talk about the information presented in the thread from an article? 

There is downplaying about cross play finally being a thing. There probably should have been more of a positive reaction there. Mods handled the situation. Not worth bookmarking imo but I'll give it to you nonetheless. 

I don't see any problem with the last thread. It's based on a person's specific tastes in gaming and they're simply sharing that opinion with others. Some known Sony fans are even agreeing in the thread... Specificallyaabout the change in gameplay from uncharted 2 to 4 and GoW's recent evolution.

It's actually well behaved in the thread too. I only did read through the first 50 posts though.

Do you just not want discussion? Is that really what you're saying? Perhaps a shared user base forum isn't for you. 

Nothing wrong with thread topics used to generate discussion. However, that doesn't mean these discussions are free of downplay. 

In the first thread, some posters claim Sony won this gen off MS/Nintendo mistakes, which I find to be a oversimplification on what Sony does right in terms of the console market, downplaying their global brand.   

In the second thread, tons of spinning going on based on the OP, from 'arrogant Sony,' to Sony isn't supporting AA/indies anymore, to anti consumer, it goes beyond money hatting third party exclusives & DLC. 

The third thread, I'll admit, was more discussion/speculation and shouldn't be included. 

The last thread is more oversimplification of Sony's success but this time its with their first party software. Not to mention, OP is nit picking to prove his point. No one is forcing him to like Sony exclusives. But that doesn't mean he can fabricate their catalog to suit his argument. 



Now if only they made their games available on Windows 8, they jumped so fast to W10...



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What i can see from this strategy is , Microsoft will slow their next gen consoles sales by focusing on their old consoles . Focusing on old hardware. This will not end well for early Xbox X adopter , they will just play Xbox One games with increase resolution and frame rates. Of course Sony will also have some cross gen games, but allowing their first party IP to have exclusivity to next gen only added more value to PS5.

Gamer who already own old consoles and ready to move out to play next gen games will 100% buy PS5 instead Xbox X.